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friday Feb 10
Whole Music Club @ Coffman Union
w/Fog
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holy crap!
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Whoa.
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somehow, I don't see 400 guitars on that stage.
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I figure this must be his Guitar Trio deal
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Crazy! Why oh why does this show have to be in the whole?
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weird. How did the whole get this and why did they set it up? Fog must have done it. Thank you Fog!
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Rad.
Too bad Ebb 'n' Flow isn't opening. Or whoever the fuck opened when Brotzman played at the U years ago.
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Ebb 'n' Flow, aka Rinse 'n' Spit
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Noice 'n' Toight
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Hot n' Nasty
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Wasn't there some Dinkytown based jam band called Big Tasty?
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Big Wu!
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Greg Norton? fuck! this should be a sweet gig.
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and it's only five piddly bucks!
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I just piddled five times!
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is there a site for this gig?
anybody know what time?
not that it really matters, but i found it interesting that chatham is playing in italy tomorrow on a bill with david lynch..
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link / got it
ben vida is from hopkins, right?
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I have never heard his jams, but I'm already SO into this.
What a fucking lineup. WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS CITY?!?!??!?!?!?
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bump. i will do my best to be at this.
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uh, that link doesn't say anything about getting tickets before the show?
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Is the Whole stage still in the same location as it was a few years back prior to the remodel? I haven't been there since that Unwound show. Yep. Been a while.
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that venue sucks ass, but i will try to be at this anyway
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Is this Friday or Saturday? The 10th is Saturday.
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it's saturday. i erred in my original post.
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Ah, ok. Tight. My schedule is filling up this week!
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Holy crap. I just read this. Awesome.
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bump.
i don't want to forget about this!
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Fuck this is the same night as portastatic! Well i've seen Rhys Chatham before but not portastatic so i guess i'm not going to this. FUCK>........ Does anybody know the time this show starts? Maybe early?
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oh fuck it is!
maybe we can do both, brah?
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is this all ages? what's the start time?
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The Coffman site sez:
Feb 10: 9pm - 11:30pm
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OHhhhh that is cutting it close.
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*bump* for Justn.
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tickets?
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For all that haven't seen this i highly recommend it. I saw them in a church in austin and it was pretty wicked. If its at all possible i'm gonna do both shows this night.
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Noah - it's free for students, $5 for general public. Classy already posted a link.
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dope, maybe i can skeez in fo' free
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Thanks, I can't really get to links from here. Weird how MRMB isn't blocked.
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Yeah, weird how your work doesn't block MRMB, but blocks the U of M.
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MPR links are blocked... funny, right?
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Now that I am 18 and a U student, I can not only go to this, but for free as well. However, I still hold a grudge against the Whole.
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JRN, you are still forever 16 in my mind. See you there, curmudgeon grudge!
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*bump*
Tonight! Who's going?
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i will be in your whole
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here is the link, all spelled out:
*Rhys Chatham*'s Guitar Trio with special guests: Fog
Written in 1977, "Guitar Trio" is Rhys Chatham's signature composition, and
with good reason. The word "seminal" was invented to describe it. With a
single, repeated chord, Chatham permanently altered the DNA of rock by splicing the gritty,
overtone-drenched minimalism of John Cale
and Tony Conrad
with the elemental fury of
The Ramones. The
amalgamation was inspired. It energized the downtown New York scene
throughout the late 1970s and early 1980s, and made Chatham a founding
father of the notorious No Wave movement. The influence of "Guitar Trio"
spread even farther as former students and ensemble members carried its
shimmering swagger into the rock mainstream. When Sonic Youth are
inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame (in, yes, Cleveland -- and
you know it's gonna happen), listen for some G3. It's there.
In 2007 Chatham returns (he expatriated to
Paris in 1987) to celebrate the 30th anniversary of "Guitar Trio" by
performing it on tour throughout the US and Canada. And we don't mean
it's on the set list; it is the set list. These will be no ordinary
concerts, and the ensemble -- pumped up to a formidable six guitars at
most shows -- will be no ordinary ensemble. Chatham will lead a band of
all-stars at the Whole. The concerts will also feature the original
visual projections created for the piece in 1977 by famed visual artist
and feature-film director Robert Longo.
Together, Rhys Chatham and company will demonstrate to a new generation
of fans the amazing feats that can be accomplished with one chord, six
guitars, a rollicking rhythm section and amplifiers set to "Liquefy."
The show will also be recorded, to be released on a G3-only CD. The
title? It's obvious: Guitar Trio Is My Life.
Rhys will perform with:
Guitar: Erik Fratzke, (HAPPY APPLE,ZEBULON PIKE)
Guitar: Andrew Broder, (FOG )
Guitar: Todd Rittman, (US MAPLE)
Guitar: Ben Vida, (BIRDSHOW, TOWN AND
COUNTRY)
Guitar: Rob Lowe, (90 DAY MEN, LICHENS)
Guitar: DAVID DANIELL (JONATHAN
KANE, SAN AGUSTIN)
Bass: (ex-HUSKER DÜ, GANGFONT FEATURING INTERLOPER)
Drums: Tim Glenn, (FOG)
A new, slim, trim, and vigorous Fog opens the show.
Saturday, February 10th
Whole Music Club, Coffman Union
Show @ 9pm
Free for UofM Students, $5 for General Public
All-Ages
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I'm in yr hole, watching yr post-punk pioneers.
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i'ma goin
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if i am feeling well enough, i will be there
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I'm gonna go to In Defence at the Triple Rock, then swing over to this afterward. Another action-packed day.
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times like these that i am very glad i kept my U of M student id
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More than Likely, I will be here.
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I'm groin.
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uh huh
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Where is the above copy-and-pasted listing from? Because they need to know that Whole shows are 18+ and listing them as all ages only results in people (like me) getting very pissed off.
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i suppose this starting aound 10?
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so i also suppose there will be no drinking at this.
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i'm not looking forward to finding a parking spot for this.
unless anyone has some tips.
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parking does not exist at the U
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this might be one of those shows that starts early
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i'm gonna try to be there at ten.
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me too, maybe 945
good luck with parking, i'd prolly just eat the parking ramp prices
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The parking ramp was free tonight, I think this is often the case later at night.
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i was not very in to this
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Im glad I didnt go Ive never been into that
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i went to support FOG and the mad drummer, but the guitar trio thing just kinda bored me. tim looked bored hitting the high hat for 15 minutes straight
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I dug it. The second take was better. I thought it was neat to see seven dudes go nuts playing one chord. Also, I found it funny that Chatham was playing the signature model of the dude from System of a Down.
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yeah, i think they are all good musicians, i just don't dig on that aesthetic of music so much
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It kinda felt like a drum circle, but with guitarists instead.
Glad I went, but yeah, it wasn't mind-blowing or anything.
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and goddamn, there is nothing good to say about the coffman union
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i think the idea was more important than the players and it was cool seeing such good players show so much restraint.
it reminded me of Neu 2.
i liked it. i remember feeling kind of disappointed about it afterwards but i talked myself into liking it after thinking about it this morning because of the reason i stated above.
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The Whole is a weird place. What's with that painting that says "Rollins Band"? It doesn't look like Henry Rollins at all!
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I enjoyed the Rhys Chatham Experience.
It was really nice to hear all those guitars massed together during the climaxes and the crazy overtones that were being produced as a result.
What was with ALL of those Whole paintings? The ones of Tom Waits and Sleater-Kinney, the ones that I could spot from where I was sitting, looked nothing like their real-life selves.
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Chatham's guitar was awesome. There was something pretty hilarious about watching his face while he played it.
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I liked it, too, but when it started, it didn't seem like it would become nearly as intense as it got. The overtones were amazing. I was hearing all kinds of shit in there. Also, Mr Chatham himself was a very warm and engaging fellow. He asks you your name when you talk to him. Isn't that nice?
Those paintings were like if you described, to a Mexican folk artist (through an obvious language barrier), what certain rock stars looked like, without letting them see a photo.
Isaac, I woulda said hi if I'd seen you.
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His hopping around and NPR-style banter were kind of endearing.
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It was pretty cool to see. I liked the sound but it started fucking with my head after ten minutes. I had to
wmcblob posted this on Feb 11th, 2007 at 06:19:18 pm
What was with ALL of those Whole paintings? The ones of Tom Waits and Sleater-Kinney, the ones that I could spot from where I was sitting, looked nothing like their real-life selves.
I noticed those, too. Pretty bad. There was also a bunch of garbage written on the walls...my favorite being, "IF IT WAS MEANT TO BE, THEN YOU WILL NEVER BE APART!"
Heeeeaaaaaaavvvyyyy, brohan.
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Fog was great.
Rhys Chatham was... well... whatever.
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BWAHAHA!
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i liked that dude way better when he was in scratch acid.
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i recall seeing the frogs @ the whole one time... the only time i went there. it's an awful venue. that whole building is awful. take a walk through there during a school day sometime. it's a nightmare. or like my uncle joe says, "it's a nightmare, like getting married and having kids and then getting divorced... or going to the casino.... or having a sex change."
the frogs are still funny. i don't care what anyone says. every time i've seen them it's been a trainwreck. they sang a song about being hit in the face with an airplane which i thought was funny...
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This was written on the walls with chalk:
Pillow Fights
Man vs Woman = Fun
Man vs Man = Gay
Woman vs Woman = Awesome
Man vs Pillow = Crazy
Pillow vs Pillow = Crazy
Awesome
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I wasn't too impressed with this.
It was nice seeing some old friends that were playing in the ensemble.
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It did not live up to the hype, despite my feeling glad to have at least seen it. The controls were definitely not set to "liquefy", for instance.
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yes, the sound in that place was fairly weak
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the whole sucks.
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Was it just me, or was the guy from U.S. Maple... "way too into it"? I remember people talking about his stage presence, before.
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i enjoyed Rhys Chatham and co. but wasn't into Fog.
on the Whole paintings - oh my god.
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the new fog stuff was alright, but i really miss the fog of about 5 years ago. the rock trio format isn't as interesting.
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as for chatham, i really liked it the first time around, but when they basically played the same thing again it was a little much.
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I liked hearing Fog do a rockier version of the song "10th Ave Freakout". That was awesome.
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mind = blown? nah, but I liked it. And it was good to see Greg Norton on a stage again.
Listening to Chatham's "A Crimson Grail (for 400 gutiars)" right now.
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from left to right, who were the players?
The people in front of fratzke, are the ones I really don't know. I see their names were listed, but can't place their faces, with the names.
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rob lowe was the only one i recognized and he was standing right next to fratzke.
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Oh, ok.
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(l-r) Ben Vida, David Daniel, Rob Lowe, Eric Fratzke, Tim Glenn, Greg Norton, Andrew Broder, Todd Rittmann
"Too into it"? Not sure how that's guaged, but I love Rittmann's playing and presence. Dude's one of my favorites.
I thought this was really great. Maybe not the choices of venues to see it.
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choicest, not choices
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His presence just seemed so... I can't even describe it, tevs.
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I rather enjoyed this, it would have been better possibly in a better room, but still good.
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I'm assuming the whole was the venue, due to a guarentee, possibly?
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Noah P. posted this on Feb 12th, 2007 at 11:03:16 am
His presence just seemed so... I can't even describe it, tevs.
He just bothered you because you hate his band. Rob Lowe was "into" it, too, as were the others.
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I didn't really even know about the U.S. Maple thing.
Greg Norton was awesome. Just chill, in the background.
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yes on the norton.
I liked the Chatham. it was like Stereolab and Philip Glass in a sawmill.
That Rollins painting, jeebus. Air brush "graffiti" art, unrecognizable.
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I'd like to see Glass in a sawmill. Tied to a log.
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Snidely Whiplash all at the controls.
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Noah P. posted this on Feb 12th, 2007 at 11:24:21 am
I didn't really even know about the U.S. Maple thing.
Noah P. posted this on Feb 12th, 2007 at 09:33:07 am
Was it just me, or was the guy from U.S. Maple... "way too into it"?
???
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hahaha!
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I didn't know that was him, going into it. Found out after the 1st piece.
Is it clear to you now, Germ?
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i have to admit i found yr responses rather confusing.
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I can understand. Don't want to argue, just don't like the guy's stage presence. That's all.
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I can see how it might struck some as odd. Maple sort of made a name for themselves, especially around the time of touring w/ Pavement, as weird dudes to watch perform. I doubt it's anything too planned-out; I think it's just kinda how the dude plays.
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I'm not a US Maple fan -- they just sound like bad Beefheart, to me -- but this gig wasn't really about watching anyone either shine or stink on an individual basis.
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it didn't seem contrived in the least to me and my bullshit detector is finely tuned.
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Adster - I'm sure it isn't planned out. It just happens. There are plenty of people's stage presence, I don't care for.
Whatever, at least they have them. I've got the "stay behind the guitar players, and only stand next to the drummer" syndrome, when I play bass.
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"I'm not a US Maple fan -- they just sound like bad Beefheart, to me"
I totally agree. They were yawntastic when I sawr them. Even with the weirdo stage presence and "if Iggy Pop and David Lee Roth were retarded" moves.
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I am curious to know the rehearsal process behind Rhys Chatham, or was this un-rehearsed?
There just wasn't much too it.
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I'm not a US Maple fan -- they just sound like bad Beefheart, to me
I know a few people kinda think that. It's weird for me, because I remember hearing them in high school for the first time - and this was long before I'd ever heard Beefheart - and I remember thinking it was the CRAZIEST thing I'd ever heard in my life, and that there couldn't have been much precedent for it. They pretty much became my favorite band, and I've sorta been recently rediscovering how much I still dig 'em. But yeah, I'm now a little more aware of the influences from which they were birthed. I have to admit to still feeling a bit more moved by Maple's music than Beefheart's, but maybe only because they played a more crucial role in the early weird-ening of my musical tastes. Different strokes for different folks. The more you know. The circle of life, 'n' shit.
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i don't think you are getting the idea of it noah. which is fine.
there wasn't supposed to be much to it. the minimalism is what was supposed to make it interesting, if you are so inclined to be interested in that sort of thing i guess.
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hey, if US Maple acts as anyone's gateway drug to more out-there music, then they've served a purpose, I would say...
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I understand it was suppose to be minimalism, but it just leave me floored, at all. Like, sure... kind of a cool concept, by getting these big-time guitar players, and have them play the E string, for 12 minutes... restraining, and have Tim Glenn play just hi-hat for the first piece.
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i've never really understood the maple=beefheart thing at all...seems like a real lazy comparison. maple was a pretty singular, amazing thing for me....the quietness, the spareness of the arangements...most importantly Al's singing and stage presence.....unreal band to me.
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It was interesting, in that sense.
I mainly went for Fog, and to check out Rhys. So much hype to Rhys Chatham, I decided to stay.
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i get the comparison to beefheart. both bands have this super loose/tightness to them. the singing is obviously way different but i think al is doing something completely original that is arguably pretty annoying. sound familiar?
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Yeah, I think Maple's got their own flava of disjointedness. "Missouri Twist" is a mind-blower. Croikey, I could list a buttload of songs I love from them. Ne'ermind.
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What I would've given to see Ben Vida (wasn't he the latest US Maple drummer?) hop behind the kit and for the guys who were traveling with Chatham to launch into something else of his like "Drastic Classicism" as the second piece.
I saw US Maple for the 1st and only time at the Triple Rock, and having never seen them before I was pretty happy. "Purple on TIme" was pretty disappointing to me, and I ripped my favorite track off it and sold it back a while after buying it.
All their other stuff I have and enjoy muchly.
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Adam Vida is the new drummer, blob.
Was the song you ripped "Dumb in the Wingz"? ----------- because it pwns.
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It was amazing when Tim Glenn was going off. He's fucking amazing
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yeah i mean i get comparisons in the larger sense, but to me beefheart still feels like a (very very strange) 60s blues rock/garage band at it's core...where maple was much stranger feeling...creepier and more disjointed.....obv. the singing and al's stage persona feels much more odd to me as well.
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Ah yes, Adam Vida. Way to represent for all the Adam's out there ;-)
Maybe then Todd RIttman could've hopped behind the kit?
It was indeed that song. I loved when they played it.
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jah i'm not dissing beefheart but he was just as much a product of his time, for me, as hendrix or cream or whatever....
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Adam Vida and Ben Vida are bros. I think Ben might be a drummer too. I can't remember if he is or if Adam also plays guitar...
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US Maple also comes out of (and no doubt exists in reaction to) the whole mid-90's Chicago angular noise-/art-/whatever-rock of the time.
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yeah of course. everything is a part of its time really when you get down to it.
anyway, my point was not to diss the good cap'n, but only to disabuse folx of the notion that maple is a mere retread of beefheart.
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"If your band has hung out with Jim O'Rourke at any point in time, you might be a mid-90's Chicago angular/now-wave band."
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My statement is meant to concur heartily, magscrates!
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"If your band has hung out with Jim O'Rourke at any point in time, you might be a mid-90's Chicago angular/now-wave band."
Hmmm...uhhh...eeerrrrr....
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I don't like Captain Beeffart either.
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Is it because he isn't a real captain?
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No, I just don't like music.
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Hmmm...uhhh...eeerrrrr....
PJ Harvey album title?
=-)
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I really, seriousy, deeply loathe the "music" of US Maple, but I like a lot of music that is made by people who obviously like their style. I'm not sure what that means. I do know that they dont' sound like Beefheart to these ears.
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Jim O'Rourke is awesome!
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I like O'Rourke a lot as a support musician, but I realy hate his solo albums.
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Jim O'Rourke's solo albums are great!
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I don't like Zebulon Pike.
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I am with myraaa on their not being my chilled Premium bottle of urine.
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I cannot stand canned beets.
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While we're at it, there's like a couple parts of ZB I like, but yeah, not too big a fan.
Fratzke with Ruins was great, though!
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N1CKS posted this on Feb 12th, 2007 at 02:16:33 pm
I don't like Zebulon Pike.
hahahaha.
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"If you have ever approached Steve Albini about recording your band, you just might be a mid-90's Chicago angular/now-wave band."
"If you were ever on a first-name basis with anyone who worked at Lounge Ax, you may have elected yourself to the position of a mid-90's Chicago angular rock band."
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I like me some occasional beets!
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I can see that ZP would be a turnoff to some.
I like them, though they are far more technical than I usually go for, but the usual complaints people have about them are understandable.
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I like Fratzke's personality and I respect his musical abilities.
I hate Dane Cook.
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i do not like cilantro.
but i love corriander.
someone told me that this should not be true.
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I think I've only heard one Fog record, and it had annoying turntalble scratchy-scratchies on it and I found it unintersting.
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I hate life, the world, and people (all of them) now that I'm not going on vacation at the end of the month.
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Beets are gross.
I liked Canned Heat at one time, but the "boogieness" factor doesn't sit well with me anymore.
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stop with that shit
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chance posted this on Feb 12th, 2007 at 02:21:53 pm
I hate life, the world, and people (all of them) now that I'm not going on vacation at the end of the month.
Exqueeze me?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Most times I like boogieness.
Was Chatham in Red Transistor? Someone look it up for me, I don't have time.
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"If you're band ever shared a bill with someone who worked for Touch & Go ro Skingraft Records, you might be a mid-90's Chicago angular rock band."
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Who'm I thinkin of, dest.?
The other no wave guy...not Branca...the other one...
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I am a Touch & Go Recording Artiste.
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Von Lmo.
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Tuxedo Moon!
wait...no...nevermind me...
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"If you one day discover that Weasel Walter has written liner notes for your album...you might be a mid-90's Chicago angular rock band.
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"If you've ever been on tour and found yourself waking up on Nick Sakes' floor, you might be a mid-90's Chicago angular/noise rock band."
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Dawg.
"If you have the guy that did the cover art for that one Shorty EP in your old bed...."
OOPS(!)
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I saw N1CKS. That made the evening.
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I figured they were called US Maple because they sounded like people running through the woods smashing into trees with their instruments.
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best part of the night is when mr. broder said the song was a mobb deep cover. my brother yelled out "shook ones" and he chuckled. i then poured out some st. ides for magma who wasn't there to hear it.
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haha yeah when maps played w.him solo at the fine line, he did a song, acoustic dylan type number where the verses were different but the chorus was "we're in this together, son, your beef is mine" which made my nite! i went up to him after when he was tearing down and we were setting up like a nerd and said how awesome it was...
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yeah, same song!
i was waiting for nas to come out and drop a verse!
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I think "Your Beef Is Mine" is on the Fog myspace.
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as time goes by an eye for an eye
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I had no idea USM was so polarizing even to the local noiseniks. It just reinforces for me how good they are (not because you guys in particular don't like them, but rather, because they are so incredibly polarizing).
Anyway, the board conversations today are all repeats. What gives?
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For magma:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRPUrXadhfA&mode=related&search=
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thx noah! i like that song...he did it way different the time i saw him....
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As if he didn't need to come off any further as a "sweet old NPR host"--
"RhysChatham (1 month ago)
Thank you SO MUCH for filming this. I'm gonna post it EVERYWHERE!
Love - Rhys"
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I was at this show and enjoyed the assault of guitars very much. Nice to see the vid.
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Speaking of polarizing bands... Here's a new one.
SINGER:
Todd Rittmann (US Maple)
Adam Vida (US Maple)
Ben Vida (Town and Country, Bird Show)
Rob Lowe (90 Day Men, Lichens)
We've been invited to tour with Battles in July. We'll be in MPLS (where Ben and I grew up) on July 11th, 2007 at Triple Rock. You gotta see Rittmann is bringing to this... that's all I'll say.
Best, Adam
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Whole gig soon to be released
Rhys' own writeup of the gig. He likes us:
"As I was establishing eye contact with the audience and checking them out during the performance, I noticed that this was a particularly good-looking crowd, both the men and the women. Often at university gigs you get the blue jean crowd, as students are usually on a tight budget. Now I usually wear blue jeans myself (black ones, naturally), so I have nothing against them, but these people really had a cool, non-definable street look. The crowd was mostly graduate and undergraduate age, yet they all looked fantastic. Does this have something to do with Minneapolis? Or perhaps they were art students... Yes, that must be it. Art students tend to be more visually oriented, I would imagine. Anyway, this audience was a pleasure to play for as well as look at!"
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Very cool. I was at the Whole gig. I'm sure he was looking at me because I am so very stylish and arty always!
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Oh, he's definitely talking about me as well. He looked at me. I remember.
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Ha, that's funny. I was wondering why he was looking around so much.
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See, had i gone I would've wore acid wash jeans with creased and rolled cuffs, and a Bad Boy Club t-shirt. Then Mr. Chatham's opinion on Whole Music Club couture would've been more realistic.
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STOP BUMPING THIS DAMN THREAD! Every time I see this I think that Rhys Chatham is actually coming and then I get so excited and then I learn it was last year and then I get all mad that I didn't go to it...
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Wow, dude really documents the shit out of these shows. I really wish I had gone.
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Nice to see Ben Vida in that video. Haven't seen him in 11 years.
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maltese is gonna be pissed!
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part of this gig is out now on the 3cd "guitar trio is my life" release from table of the elements.
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I picked up Guitar Trio is My Life last night, holy cow, awesome, the excerpt from the Whole show sounds better then I remember hearing it at the time, the other tracks are really great as well.
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Oh this is out! Gotta get it soon. Cool. Thanks.
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HALTEN SIE!
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we listened to this set on the drive back from sxsw, great stuff..
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I see that Minneapolis only gets a short excerpt.
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