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ha ha! awesome story.
I am sure I will be using this thread.
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A "cock-up" in production? Heavens!
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MES is in a wheelchair but they are playing shows again
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Wait, he's in a wheelchair? Why?
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He's too grumpy to walk.
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He broke his hip again a month or so ago
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just saw this, good news
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fyi, new live song "cowboy george" posted in a thread at the fansite. it's a corker!
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Mark E Smith quotes:
If I could change one law I would reverse the smoking ban immediately. I was in a pub last Saturday night, just having a quiet pint, and this fella gets his baby out and changes its nappy on the table next to me. That would have never happened before the smoking ban.
I don't like being told what a safe drinking limit is. They just want us to stay in and eat turnips.
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anyone who reads this thread probably checks out the Fall site too. regardless:
"HEREWITH annual May missive message from I, Mark E. Smith
on this day of celebration/reformation:
ANOTHER year has passed - rapidly for some, too slowly for I,
one-legged yet again.
And yet, things re: The Fall improve, our new label, although young, are coping just about with 'The Fall".
Yea, in a Castleford studio built on gravel the group cracked down some odd things.
The main concern to avoid the much-ripped off already 'Imperial'.
Our next record will be something that scum like that choke on.
We will not be playing 'I.O.W.' 'FEST' either but will play the Mojo sick-trio.
STICK ENEMIES IN FRONT OF DAYTIME T.V.
AVOID GERMAN-BERT'S MOCK ART EXHIBITION IN L.S.W.
I love you all but i cannot embrace you all/
-As of last year,
your dearest pal-
MARK E. SMITH
for 'The Fall'
2009
As I type this in the swirling gales of consequence I wish you, my pals, all the very best.
MAY THEIR INSIDIOUS RAPPINGS DISINTEGRATE INTO THE FOREGROUND"
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There's a DVD called "Northern Cream: The Fall DVD That Fights Back!" of 1981 material that I just ordered for Treehouse.
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Brand newly discovered footage of the Fall from 1981 including the only known film of The Fall with the clarinet player Dave Tucker.
Track Listing
Four chapters:
1 : Unreleased 1981 concert footage
Tracklisting : Lie dream of a casino soul, Leave the capitol, C'N'C-s / Mithering / Hassle Schmuck, Slates, slags etc
2 : Unreleased in depth documentary with great interviewfrom Mark E Smith
3 : Audio footage and stills including audio outakkes
4 Full Leeds Univercity 1981 concert,
Tracklisting : Container drivers, Hip priest, Draygo's guilt, Impression of J Temperance, Totally wired, C'N'C-s / Mithering / Hassle Schmuck, Middle mass, English scheme, Winter, Jambone and the air rifle, Slates, slags etc, That man, When the moon falls, Prole Art threat
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The Leeds footage is already avail on the Perverted By Language/BIS dvd
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that's what i thought..
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For those who haven't looked at the Fall fansite for a bit: Psykick Dancehall, A Figure Walks, and Rebellious Jukebox all played at their last gig.
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i really hope that their take on wanda jackson's "funnel of love" fills the obligatory cover song slot on the next album. i found that tune on a 45 at a goodwill somewhere in ohio and it was my favorite song for the next four months.
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honkin_on_bobo posted this on Jun 12th, 2009 at 08:55:32 am
For those who haven't looked at the Fall fansite for a bit: Psykick Dancehall, A Figure Walks, and Rebellious Jukebox all played at their last gig.
and "who makes the nazis" too. whoa.
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news that's sure to delight The Classical:
Another Smith & Blaney album -- The Train part 3 -- out soon on Voiceprint. And another in a string of remarkable press releases from the label:
Mark E Smith has been called a Maverick over the last thirty plus years he has led the Fall. Many people have tried to bend Mark E Smith to their will and failed time and time again. If making music under your own terms and whenever and with whomever you want then Mark E Smith is a maverick. Plainly speaking Mark E Smith does what he wants and you are either with him or against him. If you are against him then the relationship is usually terminated as many former members of the Fall can attest. Mark E Smith has a clear idea of what he wants and an even clearer idea of what he doesn't want.
Ed Blaney was a member of the Fall during late 2000-2001 playing on the album Are You Are Missing Winner released in late 2001.
In 2008 Smith and Blaney embarked on what seemed like a spontaneous project recording and releasing a number of limited edition singles. These singles were then collected together and released on an album entitled The Fall's Mark E Smith and Ed Blaney.
Train is the second album recorded by the duo outside of the Fall activities.
Mark E Smith and Ed Blaney's latest collaboration carries the title The Train part 3 and is described as an Open Street Recordings of the past present and future.
Recorded in October Nov3ember and December 2008 these are field recordings that have been edited in the studio. The recordings were made in Blackpool, Salford, York and shire, the midnight train from Sophia-Karnobat (Bulgaria) and finally edited in Blueprint Studios Salford by Gary Hadfield under the production supervision of both Mark E Smith and Ed Blaney.
The collaboration will no doubt appeal to the large and dedicated Fall fan base and also lovers of audio-verite.
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Blaney must have pics of Mark E Smith like drinking a glass of milk and going to bed early or being polite to a band member
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new studio album apparently is now coming out in November, entitled Our Future -- Your Clutter
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I thought this would actually be about The NEWS.
Anyway, this seems like a good place to ask: What's so great about The Fall? Ingenuity? Wordsmithdom? Political commentary? Please explain to me why The Fall are great bcs I am genuinely interested.
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Our Future -- Your Clutter is pretty great, though Our Past -- Your Clutter is a little more accurate in my case.
the Fall are great for many reasons, but its because of the music mostly and obv MES is a distinctive lyricist/vocalist.
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gertrude!, i could go on and on in response, and i will, when i'm not at work, but for the moment...
one reason, then
one reason, now
...i'd rather let a couple favorite songs of mine do the explaining, rather than my blathering.
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Those are as good a reason as any
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Yay! Thanks! I'll listen when I get home from work, and will look forward to your essay. 5 paragraph style please.
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Oh also I had a fall compilation once upon a time, and remember sensin that it was cool but not really grasping it. I was young. But that's why I'm asking the experts. I found it "challenging."
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The Fall are the consumate "grower" band. I had several albums for yrs before at one point I eventually "got it" & when I went from thinking they were good to thinking they were incredible.
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AAAHHH IS THAT Mark E Smith?? AAAAAHHHHH!
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He must have fewer teeth by now.
I bought Palace of Swords Reversed first, so I got hooked in about a minute. (If you like jerky, shouty stuff, it's got some very high-quality that.) So I ran out and bought a heap of Fall records and got un-hooked by the almost-sameness of them all. Then one day years later, those suddenly all sounded good and distinct from each other, so I bought more again, and the same thing happened again. I'm on about round five of thinking it's all awesome, but that "What fucking record is this?" feeling is loitering nearby.
The way to love the Fall is by almost not listening to them, maybe.
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I totally know what you mean by that last statement. I've definitely experienced that with a few other bands.
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Looks like the Fall are playing one of the ATPs in England next spring, which in and of itself isn't exactly newsworthy, but its the Pavement curated one. Pavement the band whose vocalist MES referred to as "a cunt in a BMW".
Huzzah drama!
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That's more of a compliment to Pavement than I would give.
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according to the headline on their site, Domino is not releasing Our Future - Your Clutter after all.
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Of course
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Usually MES waits until a label has actually released a Fall album before parting ways with them.
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"a cunt in a BMW."
That is hilarious. I can picture him in a BMW with a self-satisfied smile and hair blowing in the wind. Half of SM's career was spent "borrowing" from MES.
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So, lay down your bets. Next label? Fat Possum?
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my guess = another UK-only release that won't get picked up by a US label
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Intial UK-only release followed by a US release of a completely different mix and different songs a yr later.
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it's funny i always read about how much pavement stole from the fall and can but i never much heard it in the music.
i think malkmus was pretty canny in knowing how to manipulate 90s "alternative" writers
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Same here, mags. I think you can hear a bit of This Nation's-type Fall on <i>Slanted and Enchanted<i>, but not nearly so much as some would have you believe. And Malkmus bites Lou Reed way, way more than MES (not a dis, obviously).
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I now suspect that the briefly viewable update I caught at the top of Domino's page was a joke. I can't seem to find anything else about their bailing on the new record. Carry on, everyone.
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At long last, a press release from Domino Records:
Domino is incredibly proud to announce that it will be releasing the new album from The Fall. Recorded at various studios in the north of England over the past year, Your Future Our Clutter is Mark E Smith and co’s debut for Domino and will be released on 26th April 2010.
Your Future Our Clutteris The Fall at their most rampant, most forward moving, bone shaking best. With nine tracks that rock like raw fury, we see The Fall heading into their next decade with the same intensity with which they started.
Your Future Our Clutter will be available on double LP (WIGLP245), CD (WIGCD245) & digital download (WIG245D) from 26th April. Full album tracklisting is as follows:
1 – O.F.Y.C. Showcase
2 – Bury Pts. 1 + 3
3 – Mexico Wax Solvent
4 - Cowboy George
5 – Hot Cake
6 – Y.F.O.C. / Slippy Floor
7 - Chino
8 - Funnel Of Love
9 - Weather Report 2
The Fall are:
Peter "PP" Greenway - Guitars
Dave "The Eagle" Spurr - Bass Guitar
Eleni Poulou - Keyboards, Bass, Backing vocals
Keiron Melling - Drums, PCSN
Mark E. Smith - Lead Vocals
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Sweet
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"Your Future Our Clutter" is a fucking AWESOME album title.
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The list of current band members reminds me of the John Peel quote where he says as far as he can tell, Mark E Smith has his ex band mameber killed because Peel never hears about them again.
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One of the best, if not the best, Fall book I've read, is The Fallen, which tracks down every single person who ever played in the band for their story. In its blind-men-describing-an-elephant way -- and despite the author's insertion of himself and the dissolution of a relationship into the story -- it winds up painting a fuller picture of MES over the course of the decades than the other band bios that are out there.
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I read some pretty mixed reviews for the Fallen so I just hadn't made my around to reading it yet, but I'm really curious about it
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9 songs on 2lps? I'm excited.
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The Fall? They're OK.
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this Gavin Friday quote just made my day:
One day Mark E. Smith is walking down a street (in Salford, I think) and he sees a little girl crying. He asks her what’s wrong and she says she’s lost her teddy bear. So he says, ‘Don’t worry. He’s gone touring with a rock band.’ The little girl calms down and every now and again Mark would send a postcard from Mark E. Bear from a variety of destinations. He kept this up until she was 28.
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Wait, he stole her teddy bear to take on tour with him? What a DICK!
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Whoa Roar that story is amazing, hope it's true!
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That story was a little side note in a Stewart Lee article on MES a few yrs ago in Uncut (or some English mag), no clue if its true or not
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a couple more tracks from the new record up here -- go to the March 3 show, skip to the 4 minute mark -- "Funnel Of Love" and "Mexico Wax Solvent"
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i can't figure out how to listen to them on that page, where are they?
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right up at the top - click on the headphones by the march 3 show, it's a Real Audio file
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thx roar!
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sounds like there's a UK-only record store day 7" Bury b/w Cowboy Gregorie.
also, I broke down and listened to the album.
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is 'cowboy gregorie' different than 'cowboy george'?
thoughts on the album?
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Roaratorio posted this on Mar 08th, 2010 at 09:25:28 am
is 'cowboy gregorie' different than 'cowboy george'?
that debate is on-going at the fall site, of course!
no-spoilers-style, all I'll say about the album is I like it.
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I listened to the entire new album this morning.
is there any band as prolific, long-lived and with the high quality of music output as the Fall? I can't think of one. As good as stuff from 20 years ago. Havn't lost a thing. Funnel of Love is great. Mark E. Smith continues to amuse and amaze!
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honkin - how is it style-wise? what other album would you compare it to?
the last couple have left me cold tbh
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"Reformation" was meh, but I'd stick up for "Imperial Wax Solvent."
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yeah i guess imperial is pretty good...but i guess i'm still longing for the early 00s heyday of "real new fall" and "heads roll"
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I would happily trade the stronger tracks on IWS for the weaker ones on FHR, but in general, yeah, I wouldn't argue with that longing.
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the real new fall lp was the album that made me fall in love with the fall.
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magma90210 posted this on Mar 08th, 2010 at 06:24:51 pm
honkin - how is it style-wise? what other album would you compare it to?
it's quite different than the last few. someone else mentioned the 80's song "no bulbs" as a comparison and I wouldn't argue with that. there's chatter that the 2lp version has extra songs...
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Its available in the usual places on the web (like the third hit on when you Google the album title). Only had a chance to listen to it once last night, I don't know if I'm quite ready to annoit it a "return to form" or "best album of the post-Hanely era" or whatever I've seen out there, but it is certainly good.
And weird. Heavy on the synth action and not just little flourishes here & there, but as a lead instrument. Parts had me thinking of Light User or Levitate.
Its sounds weird in spots and I think this is first Fall record in awhile w/ an appearance by the infamous hand-held tape recorder.
In a way its the most "Fall-esque" record they've made in some time.
In the end it seemed like a more focused/better vers of what (I think anyway) they've were trying to do w/ the last couple.
So early on I'm saying good, but no clue as to how it sits in the canon yet.
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Also noticed a couple classic MES lines
"You don't deserve rock'n'roll"
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"Bury" is the new "Blindness." What an amazing track. The slowly-unfolding-increase in audio dynamics is a masterful way of racheting up intensity; props to the production team on that one.
I think the album's at least as good as Fall Heads Roll, and better sequenced at that. The last few records had pretty weak opening songs -- whether because they would've sounded better somewhere in the middle, or just outright weak -- but "YFOC Showcase" makes for a great kickoff. And while even some of the better Fall albums are front-loaded (Light User Syndrome, The Unutterable, etc), this one ends on a sublime and surprisingly emotional note.
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you guys are getting me excited!
actually "no bulbs" is great for me, love that song.
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this one ends on a sublime and surprisingly emotional note.
Yes
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You mean Pavement ripping off the Fall or the Fall ripping off stuff from like a zillion sources? Cuz there's a bit of both
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the Classical
3/10/10 10:04 AM
this one ends on a sublime and surprisingly emotional note.
like "living too late" or "paintwork"?
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the Classical
3/10/10 10:04 AM
this one ends on a sublime and surprisingly emotional note.
like "living too late" or "paintwork"?
more like "Edinborough Man"
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or "bill is dead" for that matter...
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ah okay my weak fall knowledge is being eclipsed
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i think classical should check out hip priest!
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<ihonkin_on_bobo posted this on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:09:30 am
or "bill is dead" for that matter... </i>
Yeah, that's even closer.
"These are the greatest times of my life" / "You gave me the best years of my life"
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The last track reminded me of "Bill is Dead" for sure
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I don't want to say I got choked up at the end of the record exactly, but MES def kind lays it out there like he hasn't done since "Bill"
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oh man i love that song!
extricate was the one fall album i bought back in the day because of "telephone thing" but i didn't GET the fall until years later
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<a href-"http://thequietus.com/articles/03855-the-fall-your-future-our-clutter-track-by-track-album-review"> good track by track break down by the Queitus</i>
This mentions a couple lyrics that really jumped out at me when listening..."When do I quit?" and "No one's ever called me sir in my life"
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Also:
honkin_on_bobo
3/09/10 7:12 AM
there's chatter that the 2lp version has extra songs...
From the Fall website:
Domino says the 2xLP edition of Your Future Our Clutter will contain two bonus tracks: "986 Generator" and "Get A Summer Song Goin'." It's available for pre-order on their site.
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This mentions a couple lyrics that really jumped out at me when listening..."When do I quit?" and "No one's ever called me sir in my life"
also, how "No one has ever called me 'sir' in my life" changes into "No one has called me."
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I emailed Domino US to see if the domestic vinyl would also have the extra tracks, but haven't heard back.
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(btw i was just ribbing u soapy)
this sounds good so far :)
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but "YFOC Showcase" makes for a great kickoff.
word to this....this song is damn near "theme from sparta fc" in terms of going hard.
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Ooh. I am looking forward to hearing this.
I just picked up a copy of The Frenz Experiment, which I'd only heard a few tracks from. I really like it.
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^bremen nacht from Frenz is my favorite Fall song.
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"Get A Summer Song Goin'."
haha
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I hope to finally see them this year.
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damn this album is pretty damn good (perhaps great depending on how it seems in the long term)
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REALLY enjoying this. "Bury Pts. 1 + 3" is amazing, and the point about the last few Fall records having weak opening tracks is so true (though I kinda dig the one on Imperial Wax Solvent for its weird seasick groove). I bet I'd probably like Fall Heads Roll a lot better if I just skipped that lameass first tune.
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I listened to Fall Heads Roll again last night, and yeah, I think this new one is the better record. Really hoping that Domino's domestic release is cause for a US tour in support.
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weather report 2 is just an epic song
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Pretty strong record, this.
Cowboy George, Chino, and Weather Report 2 are all rather brilliant, affecting songs. I love how everything's mixed, too. The beginning of Chino, especially, sounds amazing through headphones.
Man, Weather Report 2 is haunting. The way the wistful opening gets subsumed by the grim, electronic murk that dominates the bulk of the song is really powerful, not to mention the way the lyrics confront mortality. And that whispered ending "...you don't deserve rock and roll,..." followed by an intake of breath. Just...wow.
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Though I maintain that nothing has yet lived up to the guitar & bass pairing of Scanlon/Hanley.
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Dustroyer posted this on Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:44:59 pm
Though I maintain that nothing has yet lived up to the guitar & bass pairing of Scanlon/Hanley.
I dunno, I'd rank The Real New Fall LP as one of their best.
This new one gets better and better with each listen, but I think I'm going to put it aside so that I don't get burned out on it before the vinyl arrives.
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really well-written consideration of MES' narrative lyrics
No band's work has ever been so tempting and so frustrating for music writers: so swollen with meaning and yet so hard to read from a “proper” critical distance. Smith's whole body of work is a trap for unwary critics – a hand-painted sign reading “THIS WAY FOR FREE CAKE”, hammered into the lip of a swamp.
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That article is pretty good, a little heavy on the parenthetical statements...
The new album is officially outstanding
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(mostly he talks about visual artists and painters, but it's great, he's in a good, funny mood)
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the RSD 7" is available through Action Records (UK) now, apparently...
link
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^ don't forget to enter the coupon code 'fallnet' for an extra 10% off
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Thanks to a little birdie I got my hands on the Fall RDS 7" last night (thanks Tom!)
"Bury" sounds pretty close to "Bury pts 1 and 3" from the album, "Cowboy Gegori" is new and pretty sweet
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Kicked off their UK tour on Saturday night w/ MES walking offstage after three songs. Cue, much hand-wringing on the Fall message board about the end of the current line-up and doom-saying (along w/ legit gripes from screwed concert goers).
Flash to 24 hrs later, second night of the tour, reports are totally gang-busters, played all of the new record, soudning tight etc, MES only forgot a normal amount of lyrics, "best all Fall gig evah", etc, etc
Always different, always the same
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peter serafinowicz has been raving about the new album via twitter.
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weather report 2 is the best song of the year IMO
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Am I the only one that finds the new LP exactly on par with the more mediocre recent material? It has its moments for sure, but so far I haven't heard much that stands out.
Anyways I really hope they tour here again now that they're getting some higher-profile press.
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hahah wot the 'ell
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"WE CAN WIN"
*girl knocks over her drum kit*
go...England?
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Oh, I just posted this in the World Cup thread. Figured one of you bums beat me to it here.
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Don't they love that Chumbawamba Tubthumping song at sporting events?
I get knocked down, then I get up again...
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Fall radio session from a couple days ago: Mexico Wax Solvent (two versions), Hungry Freaks Daddy and Over! Over! are played, with interviews in between.
posted on the Fall fan page...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M65IH06E
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oh man, that is great.
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awesome
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Not Fall news per se...but some hoodlum just smashed out my window to take the Peel Sessions from my backseat. That's all he took.
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so, they've left Domino after the one album..
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...which is a shame, as it sounds like they really pushed Mark to make YFOC the best album it could be.
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fyi, preorder for the Wonderful & Frightening box w/ship is 14.08 pounds ($23.18) frm amazon uk...
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Roaratorio
10/19/10 9:06 AM so, they've left Domino after the one album..
10/19/10 9:13 AM ...which is a shame, as it sounds like they really pushed Mark to make YFOC the best album it could be.
Indeed, though really I'd be more surprised if they had stayed on Domino...in fact we're lucky that Mark didn't just leave before the album even came out like he did to Mute, which is usually how he reacts when the label tells him to spend more time on a record.
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The Fall's Mark E Smith: 'I threw a bottle at Mumford & Sons'
"We were playing a festival in Dublin the other week," he told Australian magazine Brag. "There was this other group warming up in the next sort of chalet, and they were terrible."
He added: "I said, 'Shut them cunts up,' and they were still warming up, so I threw a bottle at them. The band said, 'That's the Sons Of Mumford [sic] or something, they're Number Five in charts!'. I just thought they were a load of retarded Irish folk singers."
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It's fun reading a story like this within hours of hearing the "product" for the first time.
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true hero!
i need to investigate mumford and sons i guess
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haha, well...make what you will of his music, but the man is a pretty succinct rock critic
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I wonder what the Mumford and Sons reaction to this was
"I think a drunken old leather bag just threw a beer bottle at us"
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Holy shit I heard a Mumford and Sons song today, jesus fucking shit it was TERRIBLE
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I heard an interview with them on MPR where they also played a couple tunes.
))<
From my buns to the Mumford and Sons.
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^ lots of other great-looking stuff on that blog, too
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Apparently Mr. Smith has been thinking about FUTURE METAL as well.
Also: Mumford & Sons are cunts. They write shitty music. Good job, Mark.
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This Nation's Saving Grace box out in January
I picked-up the Wonderful and Frightening World of...The Fall box this wknd and was blown away but the quality of the remaster & the quality of the packaging. Nice mini-lp sleeves, nice bound booklet, 4 cds and for pretty cheap as well.
Basically changed my opinion on a record I've always been pretty "meh" about, the new master def highlights that clattering/bruising qualities of the rhythm section. Sounds great.
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Beggars Banquet set the bar high for special editions.
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New interview up at the Quietus
During the course of which, is it just me or is MES impling that Lemmy is a lightweight?
I always think there are some similarities between The Fall and Motorhead... I guess it must be the work ethic.
MES: [much laughter] Are they still going?
Yeah, they're on tour at the moment.
MES: [even more laughter] He has one week in bed every month though doesn't he? You'd never catch me doing that. Sloppy
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listening to Fall Heads Roll right now....for some reason I never really liked "Ride Away" (the opening country track before) but now I think it's kinda brilliant
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fuckin' a "pacifying joint" is a JAM
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Ha we talked bout this record awhile ago and you were all "that record blows"
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bring on the Greek Heavy Metal album!
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I like Fall Heads Roll. But if the reissue can turn me around on This Nat-ions Saving Grace,
it means I've had a stroke.
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I still find "Ride Away" to be a pretty half-assed way to open the album. It kinda sputters out at the end, too. But the meat in the sandwich is some prime cuts indeed.
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the Classical
1/05/11 11:14 AM
Ha we talked bout this record awhile ago and you were all "that record blows"
haha alternating between "this record sucks" and "this is genius" is kinda the point of being Fall fan, no?
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who knows maybe next i'll start thinking imperial wax solvent isn't a total mess
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That is the rub yes
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who knows maybe next i'll start thinking imperial wax solvent isn't a total mess
it's not!
Could be sequenced better, no doubt, I will grant you that.
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<Imperial Wax Solvent is pretty dope I think
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you know, i take that back, reformation post TLC is the one i was talking abt
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Reformation is a low point, but a few of the tunes are pretty great. If only they had recorded that at the end of the tour, after the the Dudes had gotten some shows under their belt rather then at the start I think it would have been way better.
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ooo, the Fall thread was bumped!
Reformation was perplexing in that if I had been asked what I wanted in a new Fall lp I would have said some long sloggers like 'And This Day' or 'Backdrop'. Lo and behold Reformation actually has a few like that, but still fails to thrill. Anyways...
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No way would a MES beer by only 5%
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"It'll get ya drunk-aaahh"
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12 % at least and if drink three or more you wake up under a bridge in Ireland getting molested by faux-New Romantic midgets and look-back bores.
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Oh, I bet MES drinks a lot of English mild ales. They are low in alcohol, but have good flavor. Probabaly uses as a chaser for bottles of scotch.
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I picked that up this wknd, haven't had a chance to listen to it though
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on sale through Action Records for £16.00, with an extra 10% off if you use the 'fallnet' discount code when ordering.
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Beggars Banquet says:
The wonderful This Nation’s Saving Grace – Omnibus Edition was released today. For those who ordered early, well done, you should be enjoying your copy right now.
However, we now have a temporary stock problem and here’s the brilliant excuse. One pallet was wrongly off-loaded in Hong Kong and the ship sailed without it. Realising the mistake the albums were hoisted onto another container ship which ran into a severe tropical storm and got badly delayed. Some say this has now docked safely in the UK and will be trucked over to our distributors shortly but, if it’s not there by tomorrow, I’ll tell you about the Somalian pirates who, at this very moment, are grooving to all the versions of Cruiser’s Creek.
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mfg'd in china?
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woah never seen that Cruisers creek video before. Love this album
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as soon as I read that, I put my old copy of The Marshall Suite up on Discogs for $25 & it sold immediately.
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That was quick
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well, it happened over the weekend
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holy shit!
that 'marshall' era peel session might be my favorite.
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If you already have the BBC Sessions box, these expanded/omnibus editions feel like kind of a ripoff...
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For every original Fall album, there are at least three reissues. Way to know yr audience, Mark-ah.
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not really... the 2 Beggars Banquet ones had enough good (new) stuff to make them totally worthwhile purchases. Plus they're hell cheap for 3CD/4CD imports.
beyond the Peel session, the b-sides, and the bonus track that was on the vinyl edition, though, I'm curious how they're going to fill up 3 discs for Marshall...
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They should do one for Levitate too, since it's out of print anyhow..... add in the 2nd disc that came with the first pressing, all the (excellent) single b-sides, the various mixes of "Masquerade," etc..
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I'll take yr word for it, Roar. I was looking at one of the BB omnibus editions and it looked like the only extra stuff other than the Peel session stuff was a live set and a couple rough mixes. You have a good point on the price though. Eminently reasonable.
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I'm curious how they're going to fill up 3 discs for Marshall...
fansite says this is the tracklist...
DISC ONE
1. TOUCH SENSITIVE
2. F-'OLDIN' MONEY
3. SHAKE-OFF
4. BOUND
5. THIS PERFECT DAY
6. (JUNG NEV'S) ANTIDOTES
7. INEVITABLE
8. ANECDOTES+ANTIDOTES IN B#
9. EARLY LIFE OF CRYING MARSHALL
10. CRYING MARSHAL
11. BIRTHDAY SONG
12. MAD. MEN-ENG, DOG
13. ON MY OWN
14. TOM RAGGAZZI (FINALE)
DISC TWO
1. TOUCH SENSITIVE DANCE MIX Touch Sensitive 12" & CD single
2. ANTIDOTE Touch Sensitive 12" & CD single
3. THIS PERFECT DAY (new version) F-oldin Money CD single 1
4. BIRTHDAY SONG (new mix) F-oldin Money CD single 1
5. THE REAL LIFE OF THE CRYING MARSHAL (new version) F-oldin Money CD single 2
6. TOM RAGGAZZI (new mix) F-oldin Money CD single 2
7. TOUCH SENSITIVE Peel Session 21
8. BOUND SOUL ONE Peel Session 22
9. ANTIDOTES Peel Session 22
10. SHAKE-OFF Peel Session 22
11. THIS PERFECT DAY Peel Session 22
12. ANTIDOTES Robert Elms BBC GLR 15/04/1999
13. F-'OLDIN' MONEY Robert Elms BBC GLR 15/04/1999
DISC THREE
Live show for XFM radio 15 April 1999
1. SHAKE OFF
2. F-'OLDIN' MONEY
3. JET BOY
4. TOUCH SENSITIVE
5. ANTIDOTES
6. 10 HOUSES OF EVE
7. INEVITABLE
8. THIS PERFECT DAY
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Best Music Video Evah!
groovylucifer
3/07/11 9:46 PM
If you already have the BBC Sessions box, these expanded/omnibus editions feel like kind of a ripoff...
Also agreeing w/ Roar, trust me, there's enough new/extra stuff on those Beggar's reissues to make them worthwhile, not to mention the remaster of the actual album plus the full-on book that comes with each one. I was also skeptical going in but I think both are worth it, esp Wonderful & Frightening
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The Fall sign to Cherry Red
MES "looking for a label that would let him bang a record out quickly." Alright, then. It'll be out this year sometime, it seems.
Also, there's a new bootleg 7" here
Artist: FALL
Title: Totally Wired
Format: 7"
Label: No Label
Country: Europe
Price: $10.00
"Two live versions from 1981. A-side: shambling, insane acapella party version of the song. B-side: best performance ever captured on vinyl, from a show at the Keystone, Berkeley, broadcast on KALX. black vinyl, 500 copies."
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OMG, I need that. That's one of my favorite songs of theirs.
"Can't ya seeeee?"
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Cue countdown to Fall annoucing they are no longer on Cherry Red
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B-side: best performance ever captured on vinyl, from a show at the Keystone, Berkeley, broadcast on KALX
found the show here:
july 10 81
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Also for it to be better then the vers on A Part of America Therein it would have to be pretty fucking good.
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if someone could order that fall boot 7" for me, I'll gladly pay you back
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the a-side a cappella version was played on wfmu (<a href="http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/40096">listen here</a).
i love bootlegs that fill gaps & illuminate dark corners, like this one.
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Excellent and hugely quotable new q & a w/ MES
What would your super power be?
No food necessary. True bats know false powers drag you down.
What do you most dislike about your appearance?
I could use a new brain and other organs.
If you could bring something extinct back to life, what would you choose?
A decent bitter/lager.
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"A new age personality stumbles out of the ruins because he's been invited to Cary Grant's wedding" is a pretty great line, I think.
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From the new Mojo, new album out before Xmas entitled ErsatzGB, produced by MES and ex-bass player Ding.
There is a "Gossip Girl" related song? And "Monocard" which MES describes as "Black Sabbath but with big gaps in it". Judging from the terrible sounding youtube footage of recent gigs, "Monocard" is indeed a jam
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"60 Minutes of Horrible Sounds-Music-Voices" is pretty accurate, can't wait!
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Will this be available at Walgreens?
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That packaging is brilliant.
(MES action figure sold separately.)
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Which dog song will reign supreme this year: Loutallica's "Little Dog" or The Fall's "Laptop Dog"???
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Oooh man that's a good question, I've heard"Laptop Dog" (at least via Youtube live footage of recent gigs) and its pretty good, but my heart is leaning toward "Little Dog" even though I haven't laid ears on it.
Yet
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Is that art real or a joke?
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release date: November 14
track list:
Cosmos 7
Taking Off
Kennedy
Mask Search
Greenway
Happy Song
Monocard
Laptop
I’ve Seen Them
Change
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So 'Laptop Dog', is just 'Laptop' now? Loutallica wins!
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slightly revised tracklist on the Cherry Red site:
Comos 7
Taking Off
Nate Will Not Return
Mask Search
Greenway
Happi Song
Monocard
Laptop Dog
I've Seen Them Come
Age of Chang[e]
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"Laptop Dog" vs. "Little Dog" = 2011 best song of the year showdown!
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shit man this is some Sophie's Choice shit right here
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Women in Saudi Arabia are to be given the right to vote and run in future municipal elections, King Abdullah has announced.
you mean they couldn't before now? god, what a shit culture.
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??
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Pretty sure women have had the right to vote in the Kingdom of the Fall since at least the late 70s
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You haven't actually read this thread have you
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psh hell no dawg
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That explains a lot
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this is moderately embarrassing.
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Mark E Smith reads the Football scores for BBC Sport: Link
Not sure if this is recent or not.
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single out? has it leaked?
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single is out november 7, only 1 week before the LP.
A-side Laptop Dog
Cosmos 7
B-side Monocard
no word yet on if these are alt takes / different mixes.
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listening to Our Future Your Clutter right now, this album is still great
really great lineup i think, have high hopes for the new album
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I picked up the Rough Trade Singles collection at the Fetus this wknd and while I could never bring myself to boil down a band with such a sprawling discography down to ten songs, this does a pretty fantastic job. "How I Wrote 'Elastic Man"" and "Wings" are easily two of MES's greatest moments lyrically and it fascinating to hear the band morph from shambling/clattering/verging-on-disaster (the rhythm section total meltdown during "Totally Wired") to bruising punishment battalion ("Kicker Conspiracy") is fascinating, even if, like me you've heard these songs a thousand times.
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a thousand, classy?
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I was low-balling
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Press release today:
THE FALL "Ersatz G.B." to be released on CD
in the US on December 6, 2011
via Cherry Red Records and MVD
Ersatz G.B. is the new studio album from The Fall, the 29th in their impressive canon. As with any Fall recording, Ersatz G.B. retains many of the group's most distinctive elements, whilst offering a fresh take on Mark E. Smith's familiar style and subject matter.
The line-up on the album remains the same as for the last few Fall releases: Peter Greenway (lead guitar), Keiron Melling (drums), Elena Poulou (keyboards,vocals), Mark E. Smith (vocals) and David Spurr (bass).
Ersatz G.B. is The Fall's first album for Cherry Red Records and it will be released on CD, limited edition vinyl and digital formats, preceded by a double A-side 7" single.
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Onw of the best fall songs ever is "Smile" just sayin....
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Lots of live / rough mix / rehearsal stuff from Steve Hanley's loft here.
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"Smile" is one of my favorite songs of theirs for sure.
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Man that Hanley stuff seems like it could be a real treasure trove, hopefully I can spend some time wading through it soon!
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Great moment in parenting: watching lil Anabelle dance to ” Arms Control Poseur” this morning
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listen to "Nate" aka "Kennedy"
also, it looks like the US release is cd only, best to order the vinyl from Action Records in the UK, use coupon "fallnet" for 10% off
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btw, that song may not be the finished version. then again, it may.
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like the song...was that a "gossip girl" reference?
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According the interview with MES in Mojo yes it is
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NSFW video for "Totally Wired."
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HOO, and we ain't talkin' a mere flash o'tittie, folks!
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ersatz gb zip can now be had easily...not sure if I can hold out until the vinyl arrives.
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Having already ordered the vinyl, and assuming that it doesn't come with a download code... I broke down and d/l'ed a leak of the album last night. Haven't played it yet, though.
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Ayo if, say, someone was to shoot me a pm?
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Me too, plz?
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Listening now. I think I just heard MES say "I had to wank off the cat to feed the fookin' dog" on "Greenway."
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Yeah something like that...hot line that jumped out at me:
"I'm so sick of Snow Patrol/And trying to find asshole lubricant"??
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haha yeah i thought that's what i heard
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hahaha yeah, that one got me too, Mr. the Classical.
I really dug this one the first listen, and I think the Greek Heavy Metal reference actually makes some sense on a few of the tunes.
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I've listened to Ersatz GB semi-casually a few times now, and it's pretty good, but not as excelllent as last year's YFOC... no one song is immediately grabbing as "Bury" or as surprising as "Weather Report 2."
And this is the first Fall album since I don't know when that hasn't had a cover song on it. Unless the Greek heavy metal song that got lifted for "Greenway" counts.
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That's kind of my take so far. Cue 6 months from now: "this is the best Fall record ever!"
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It's weird but Fall albums always blow me away when the lyrics are interpeted. can't imagine this one will be different. Really dig monocard....
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<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2011/11/14/111114crmu_music_frerejones?currentPage=> new yorker review </a>...
says lyric is "find ESSO lubricant" (Esso stations = Exxon). aaah. sorry to ruin the mystery.
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Here's the "Greek heavy metal" song that "Greenway" sprung from. I guess they have rap-metal over there too.
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snip
11/11/11 8:37 AM says lyric is "find ESSO lubricant" (Esso stations = Exxon). aaah. sorry to ruin the mystery
TOO LATE I've already pictured MES looking for asshole lube and by extention his asshole.
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Ed Blaney
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ah, thanks for making me imagine MES's asshole...akin to a sand dollar fossil?
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I can't think of anyone I think I would be more terrified to interview. Interviewer does a great job though.
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Where did guys order the lp? I was gonna just get it from domestic Amazon but apparently they don't carry it. From Action? Cherry Red? Amazon UK?
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I got mine from Action. Ordered the single and the new John Cale at the same time. Use that "fallnet" discount for 10% everything.
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Cherry Red says the vinyl LP & 7" are now sold out. Action Records still has some to sell but I wouldn't wait too long.
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Looks like there will be a US vinyl edition after all. What's up with that price, though?
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I'll wait a few years for a used copy
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Esp for a record that isn't doing much for me
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The import vinyl was cheaper than this.
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the Classical
1/04/12 12:28 PM Esp for a record that isn't doing much for me
I may like it a shade more than you do, but I kinda hope MES gives a shuffle to the current lineup before the next record, just to see what might happen.
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I thought my lp ended up being around $25 from Action? Anyway...
If the quantity pressed is similar to Imperial Wax Solvent used copies will be few and far between.
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yeah this one didn't really stick with me the way our future, your clutter did
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Admitedly we aren't even close to the point where I am bored with a new Fall record and then I randomly throw it on for some reason and suddenly I'm all "This is their best album"
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theres a Fall release listed with the RSD 2012 releases... "Night of the Humerons" 7".
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I think I read a Tweet about how that 7" didn't get shipped in time for Record Store Day and MES is flipping out over it.
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Sounds like it was shipped, but only one per store
UPDATE : a message from MES:
We were approached by Cherry Red to make a one-off vinyl single for Record Store Day 2012. We believed this event was created to promote vinyl and help record shops survive. What Cherry Red didn't tell us that they were only going to send one copy to each shop and that meant that some customers were mislead.
I'm just sorry they were inconvenienced.
M.E.S.
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Has he ever said the words "I'm sorry" before?
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Victrola Time is a great song, love that groove...MES's first vocals are fucking hilarious when he comes in sounding like a 1000 year old witch lol
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Also, it is pretty coherent which leads me to believe he didn't write it.
Real MES message would've been
Cunts at Chirry Bed sequestered our songs for collector scum-rash single. Didn't even put enough to stores did they? Some grubby students & look back bores got screwed. That's the way of things as my dad said. Mojo magazine is awful.
MES, transcribe but not read via the Great God Pan
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Humerons 7" now available frm Action...
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They played some shows in Norway & Sweden last month, no Elena, though her keyboards were set up. She's since played shows with the band again.
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new album in the pipeline
'We've been in The Kinks' studio for a fortnight and then we've come back and done three shows in Salford. The improvement in the group is marvellous - they're just tighter and better. We're actually just finishing off the next record. I haven't got a title for it yet but we are thinking about a January release,' says Smith.
I guess my wish for some new blood in the lineup before the next album won't happen, but tevs.
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I've been going through every album they have up on Rhapsody and making a playlist out of everything I like. Started in the summer, I'm up to about 13 hours, even skipping all the repeats of songs on different albums, still got 15-20 releases to go.
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I don't know that I really liked a single song from the last one
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man this version of the Fall is so bruising and tight it's almost weird
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^ that "Gray" song sounds like a(re missing) winner
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new album out in April, entitled Re-Mit
also, for those who were underwhelmed by Ersatz GB : when asked what his favorite song off that album was, MES replied, "I don't like any of 'em."
IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW
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Haha
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apparently there's a RSD 2013 7"...
Extremely limited single from The Fall including alt versions for Record Store Day. "Sir William Wray" and "Hittite Man" are alternate versions of tracks from the forthcoming new album "Re-Mit." "Jetplane" is exclusive to this release. Limited edition of 1500 copies worldwide.
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Oh DIP
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Oooooh DISH
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IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW
out on May 13
1. No Respects (instrumental)
2. Sir William Wray
3. Kinder Of Spine
4. Noise
5. Hittite Man
6. Pre-MDMA Years
7. No Respects rev. (featuring vocals)
8. Victrola Time
9. Irish
10. Jetplane
11. Jam Song
12. Loadstones
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Great album cover
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Yeah, one of the best Fall album covers in a while.
The title "Jam Song" does not bode well ("Don't start improvising, for Christ's sake") but perversely enough it'll probably wind up being the best song on the album.
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I was being facetious that album cover is...yeah
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Also glad we are getting advance warning that track 7 is "featuring voalcs"
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I wasn't being facetious! I do like that cover.
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last cover i really liked was Real New Fall LP
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sweet!
maybe Jam Song is a cover of "In the City"
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looks like one of those gross mid-90s records of theirs
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What's worse MES spending five minutes on the cover concept or no minutes?
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Watch, the "Jam Song" will be all MES barking "Marrrrrrrmalade!" in that phlegmy growl he favors these days.
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I assume the song "featuring vocals" has someone else doing vocals other than MES?
I haven't heard anything since Fall Heads Roll.
I assume the past four records are worth getting/listening to?
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Our Future, Your Clutter would be the one is recommend first
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sounds like the record is out in the uk. no lp has shown up in the mail here.
Fall fan site news : this 'alternate' take of hittite man is out (on facebook?). bests the entire RSD 7", IMO. very like the Fall to let a great take languish.
hittite man alternate
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turns out that the cover artist for Re-Mit is MES's sister -- who also did the cover for Grotesque.
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Did she do Interim as well?
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action sent my lp on monday. anyone get one earlier?
i've listened to the album on youtube a few times. still digesting!
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I got the Action dispatch note on Monday, too. Haven't heard anything yet except for the RSD 7" versions.
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I'm keeping it PURE
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Interim cover was done by Pascal Le Gras and Mark E Smith. Presumably in a room with no lights.
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I feel like his sister did a cover or was going to do something for a release around then...
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So what do folks think? I've listened once so far and it sounds like a Fall record to me!
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that cover reminds me of an old Grifters album cover
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