What the fuck happened to Drew Brees' face? I'm hoping knife fight with a tranny hooker.

Also, Carrie Underwood was TERRIBLE. I'm not talking about I like her or I don't like her. I mean missing notes left and right. No question that it was live, I guess.

Yeah, she was pretty bad. Queen Latifah wasn't too much better though.

Huh. I didn't think Underwood was that bad. She kluned the very end, but I think it's hard to do it acapella like that.

Drew Brees has always had a big mole/birthmark on the side of his face.

Kluned?

I'm trying to go to dockers.com/freepants and get some free pants, but it's too busy. :( I just wanted some dockers.

FREE PANTS????

Go here and scroll down to the twitter updates part. It's amazing to see that many people twittering about dockers.

Lots of ads about men being men...

Going for it on 4th down might haunt you there, Saints.

Klune = a bad note.

These ads have been AWFUL. Did Doritos hire someones kid nephew to produce their commercials?

Budlight, maybe rather than making 10 awful commercials, make two FUNNY ones.

Guh. So bad.

The Doritos commercials are from a contest.

ok the most exciting thing about tonite is that i was able to finally get onto the docker's site to win some pants

god, nothing worse than the halftime show band medley.

These "The Who" guys sound terrible!

ehhh i'm going back to watching the simpsons.

the drummer looks like Nigel from Spinal Tap

wow. I didn't think watching the super bowl alone could get more depressing. But then the who happened.

haha

wow.

I can just see the stage manager telling them that "there's no shame in lip synching at the Super Bowl. Hell, MJ did it."

And Townshend is all like "We need to show the world we've still got it."

GUTSY CALL on that onside kick, wow! Momentum has totally changed.

That onside kick was crazy. I don't even try that when I'm playing Madden

R Clem posted this on Feb 07th, 2010 at 07:30:44 pm
Momentum has totally changed.


And then... trick plays ain't gonna win the game.

What would it look like if famous filmmakers 'directed' the Super Bowl?

The drummer for Thw Who's Left was Zak Starkey, the fruit of Ringo's loins.

Slayer reference in a Super Bowl ad? Sweet.

that looked familiar for some reason

Bah. I'm ending this conversation with myself and turning the game off. That last Doritos ad was the local one - best of the bunch.

BOOOO! F the Saints. This should be the Vikings Superbowl. Shockey is one of the worst human beings ever. The Colts blew it.

Even though they beat us, I was rooting for the Saints. I like that city and I like their fans. Kinda hard to root for the Colts

worst. super bowl. ever.

Anyone else think that the Hyundai ad execs have been reading this board?

TAI.

Did they write some copy about Woods Porn?

well i was pulling for the colts but honestly i can't really hate on the saints and their fans.

another great, exciting superbowl, we're on a hottt streak.

thanks NFL for another great year.

That game was GREAT.

Yeah, the ads and the halftime show sucked.

Not that dope of a superbowl. Shockey is a total piece of shit, and Tracy Porter's haircuts are annoying

tom posted this on Feb 07th, 2010 at 08:47:06 pm
BOOOO! F the Saints. This should be the Vikings Superbowl. Shockey is one of the worst human beings ever. The Colts blew it.

no, the colts didn't blow it...the saints WON IT, just like they WON against the vikings! c'mon dude, don't be a sore loser. the city of new orleans needed this a whole lot more than did minnesota or indianapolis. "fuck the saints?" what you SHOULD be saying is "fuck brad childress!"

what could this "shockey" person have done to offend you all so? Please enlighten me.

Yeah, I think the Saints earned this one. Very few mistakes, smart and aggressive play calling and definitely took advantage of the Colts mistakes.

Manning looked really un-Manning-like the drive he threw the pick.

shockey is a dipshit, but he's OUR (saints fans') dipshit! every football team has a guy like shockey, though. besides which, he's canceled out by drew brees and..
this man!

Manning definitely Favred out, but I'd have to agree that the Saints earned this one (as much as that sort of pains me to say).

I was pretty impressed by both teams by turns. The Colts came out in the beginning and looked great. The whole not having the ball in the second quarter is kind of what killed them though. I think. The Saints looked like a hell of a team when it counted though.

Yeah, Fujita rules

how does a team NOT earn a win, exactly? I'm kinda new to sports I guess.

you just stay the way you are teddyruxpin. you'll be much happier in the long run.

I suppose.

yeah, the play calling by the Saints was pretty brilliant. Manning made one really bad pass but I felt like they were picking apart the defense most of the game otherwise. The way the Colts started I didn't think it was going to be a close one at all.

I'm proud of the Vikings seasons and I was totally jealous of the Saints holding up the trophy and the partying on Bourbon street. That easily could've been us this years... but alas they were a great team and I'm happy that they won. Good for them.

Considering that it was in Miami, I think that 2 Live Crew & Dino Felipe featuring a special guest appearance by Rat Bastard, Laundry Room Squelchers and Gloria Estefan would have made an unforgettable halftime performance.

i have to agree with my friend j that the who would be pretty awesome again if randy from the hypstrz was playing bass and the ever awesome mr walker from gay witch was on drums.

.... or this!!!

I'm a bigger Who fan than Prince fan, but I think Prince's halftime show was better.

Also, Randy from Hypstrz and Shawn from GWA would RULE in the Who.

I agree the Hypsterz do a better Who than the current Who, and my mind was blown by this as well:
groovylucifer 2/07/10 8:04 PM
The drummer for The Who's Left was Zak Starkey, the fruit of Ringo's loins.


And what was with the fucking conspiracy between all of the ad agencies to seel the "man needs to take back manhood from their evil, controlling women" theme? That was fucking disgusting and it was like EVERY ad!!!

Yeah, that was weird. There were like two ads in a row with that premise.

"See, honey? I'm getting the car and the fuckin' Flow TV! I deserve it"

coach, we had the same discussion at my house. They were really stringing ads that have a theme together. There were those two ads where people were in their underwear in a row that I thought was poor planning by CBS.

The census ad was stupid too. I pretty much watch ads to see which ones are the worst and guarantee that I won't support that organization. The $5 foot long Subway campaign is the reason why I didn't eat at Subway on the way back from Milwaukee this fall. That and their food sucks.

J Low posted this on Feb 07th, 2010 at 06:38:19 pm
Lots of ads about men being men...

It's clearly time for men to reclaim the manhood taken from them by Obama, with his hope-y change-y business.

I didn't see a single snap of this, but it sounds like it was pretty entertaining.

The stop on fourth and goal, the onside kick and the interception were pretty much the only exciting plays of the game that I noticed. I paid less attention to this game than any Super Bowl in the last decade or so.

I can look past being pissed at this point and say the Saints played a great game, especially hanging tough after getting down early. But still, fuck them.

I did like the Favre as MVP in 2020 ad, if only because I'm a homer.

Well, except it'll be for the L.A. Vikings by that time.

I think it's kinda funny that some of you wish the team who knocked your squad out of the playoffs would have LOST the championship. "You got housed by the runners up, congrats." And hahaha, Orbit!

I dunno, I like the Saints. If, say, the Cardinals or the Cowboys had beaten us, I would have been rooting against them

There are several flaws in that logic, starting with the assertion that the Vikes were "housed." 41-0 is a housing. 31-28 in OT when they repeatedly shot themselves in the foot (assisted by atrocious reffing in the extra period - yeah, I know, I'm a whiner) is not a housing. Fuck a Saints.

And the NFL futility list just got one name shorter. Who's left, Minnesota, Detroit, Seattle, Arizona, Jacksonville, who else?

The Saints didn't look very good against us. It was amazing we were so close, given all our mistakes. But the Saints looked pretty awesome in quarters 2-4 last night

Semantics, semantics. Housed = sent home to whine about officiating. Again. ;-) it's all in fun, dude.

Orbit
2/08/10 9:19 AM

Well, except it'll be for the L.A. Vikings by that time.

Sorry my man, dated joke. L.A. released a statement clearly stating it will not be the Vikings. Just updating you.

Pretty sure Orbit knew that. It was still a funny joke. To me, anyway.

Relax y'all, just teasing.

Oh hey, lemme add that Devery Henderson and Marques Colston are AMAZING. Holy crap can they hold on to the ball. I saw so many strip attempts by the Colts on those guys and they never gave it up. As a Vikings fan, I found that skill to be quite enviable.

I REALLY have enjoyed the replays of Peyton throwing that TAINT to ex-Timberwolf Terry Porter.

The REAL Super Bowl was played a couple weeks ago in the Superdome. Sayin'.

Mumble, The Saints didn't look good against a bunch of teams during the end of the season and I feel like if the Saints were playing the NFC championship game in Minnesota that the game goes the other way and doesn't come down to a field goal.

In the end, I didn't really care that much who won the Superbowl. I was rooting for the Colts because seeing the Saints win means that the Vikings should have won the whole damn this year. It was easier when the Falcons lost it.

Uh-huh.

That is exactly what I'm sayin'.

Normally I'm not too bothered by "man's man" themes, but I felt beaten over the head with "women really ruin us, you know? This guy over here knows what I'm talkin' about" to the point where, after about 5 ads with that message, I started to wonder if the advertisers realize that there are some women watching. In fact, I would guess the Superbowl is the only sporting event some people watch all year. The viewership of the SB is estimated to be 38% female.

It's insidious shit like this, these messages of "women are so full of petty bullshit and we're so above it, but we put up with it because you're fucking us" really do wear down one's psyche. You hear it enough and you watch enough sitcoms you start to look at your own partner and your guy friends and wonder "Shit, do they all secretly hate me? Nah, probably not. Well, MAYBE?"

Brought my son in to get a haircut yesterday, and a different customer was saying that the loss to the Saints makes Favre a full-blooded Viking now. If we had just gone and won the SB with Favre, it would have felt like the Minneapolis Packers had achieved glory. This final initiation into Vikinghood (a bitter defeat to end the season) was necessary so that our SB victory next year will be legit. There was an unspoken assumption that Favre will of course be playing again next year.

Not sure that I followed his "logic" fully, but I appreciated the sentiment somehow.

Yeah, that shit's fucked up, Emily.

seamonster
2/08/10 10:00 AM

Brought my son in to get a haircut yesterday, and a different customer was saying that the loss to the Saints makes Favre a full-blooded Viking now. If we had just gone and won the SB with Favre, it would have felt like the Minneapolis Packers had achieved glory. This final initiation into Vikinghood (a bitter defeat to end the season) was necessary so that our SB victory next year will be legit. There was an unspoken assumption that Favre will of course be playing again next year.

Not sure that I followed his "logic" fully, but I appreciated the sentiment somehow.




Hahahahahahahaha I never thought of it that way but goddamn there is some truth in that.

At some point yesterday someone turned to me after we paused, mid-conversation, to look at the ad on the TV screen we couldn't hear over conversation, and said, "I don't know if it's better that I can't hear what's on the ads or not."

Hey, were there any ads with monkeys in them? Don't they always have one of those? I wasn't really paying attention the whole time but I don't remember seeing one.

The Kia Sorrento ad had a sock monkey in it (along with Muno and some other critters).

The Puppy Bowl had a blimp piloted by hamsters and bunnywabbit cheerleaders.

WTF was up with will.i.am's atrocious remix of My Generation and the subsequent changing of the famous "hope I die before I get old" lyric to "don't wanna die before I get old"

I hope I wasn't the only one who caught that.

Ha ha mumblecrust, I was talking about the exact same thing last night. Primates seem so VITAL to the very essence of Super Bowl advertising...but I fear they are quickly becoming a thing of the past, supplanted by...cows?

Yeah, and the cows did not bring their A-game last night.

Cows are incapable of having an A-game. DEAL WITH IT, COWS ,YOU'RE JUST NOT FUNNY.

Hasselhoffenbrau
2/08/10 10:28 AM WTF was up with will.i.am's atrocious remix of My Generation and the subsequent changing of the famous "hope I die before I get old" lyric to "don't wanna die before I get old"

I think it was "Don't wanna die young/I wanna get old", or something to that effect, gah an abortion.

I laughed pretty hard at the Letterman ad

On-side kick was nuts!

I want that jacket Daltery had on.

I was kinda surprised by the music that was used in commercials last night. Grizzly Bear, Beirut and Arcade Fire all over the Superbowl. I liked that Arcade Fire did it so that the licensing money would go to Haiti relief efforts. Good for them and the commercials were just sorta simple NFL ones.

The T-Pain commercial and VW commercial were near the tops. So was the one with sock monkey and the first one where everyone at work was just in their underwear.

The Puppy Bowl friggin rocks and it makes me said I don't have cable anymore.

I think I could, in good conscience, seriously injure the person responsible for the e-trade talking baby ads.

I noticed a lot of ads about being a "man" - especially a theme about nagging wives.

I too noticed the hammering home of the "you women are keeping us from enjoying our lives" theme in the super bowl ads. And I had the same thought - don't these advertisers know that this is the one game of the year where a lot of women will be watching? Do you think they're going to enjoy that EVERY ad has this theme?

It makes the average male football fan (if that's their target audience) look like a pathetic office drone who hates his family and life.
maybe that's the truth? who knows. I feel out of touch when I watch TV. probably because I usually spend my time listening to Subhumans and Bahaus and putting more studs on my jacket.

Hey guys, thanks for your concern, but I've come to accept the fact that I as a woman will at some point be ruining your life. Just ask any of my male friends! I am always like, "Do I look fat in this? Let's go see "Dear John." Turn down that music you like! Will you buy me tampons?"

nico and clem, there is talk in another thread about this trend.

I wonder if most people are like me, where you sort of vaguely watch the ads in the background, and you remember a handful, but you can't remember *what was actually being advertised*. Which totally defeats the purpose of running the ad.

There was Superbowl Shuffle spoof, but I don't remember what it was for.

One of those stupid "I watched your damn vampire movies and smelled flowers, now let me buy a car goddamnit" commericals was for a car, but I don't remember which one.

There was another commercial where, at the time, I thought it was kind of neat or at least well-done, but as soon as it was done I was like "Wait, what was that an ad for?" And now I can't even remember the ad.

MODERN RADIO PROMOTES CONTEMPORARY POLITICAL CENSORSHIP AND OPPRESSION OF FACTS.

I mean, which thread is that?

The super bowl shuffle one was for Boost Mobile, though it could have been for tanning sprays.

tebow thread. Emily brought up the issue.

Mumblecrust, I would like to think you and others are smart enough to get the ads but I bet there are people who will actually check out those websites or business just because of their ads. If nothing else, those ads are effective in burning those companies in to your brain. They want to get in to your subconscious so that you would consider stopping at Taco Bell versus some local joint in a small city.

We did go to the homeaway.com website cause Mrs. Low missed the Vacation ad the first time around. I won't lie - they have a twelve minute "movie" up that I will be watching at some point.

Also went to the Kia and careerbuilder sites to see their ads again. Would've gone to the Doritos site if the ninja ad hadn't made it onto the teevee. But I ain't gonna buy any Kias or Doritos...

I guess what I mean is that some of the ads didn't do a great job of actually mentioning their name. Like, they tried to be entertaining or edgy, and people might remember that, but they won't remember the actual product.

A good example was when Pepsi had their Joy of Cola jingle during a Superbowl ad. Tons of people remembered it… but they forgot it was for Pepsi! Thus the song was changed to Joy of Pepsi the next year

tom
2/08/10 10:54 AM

nico and clem, there is talk in another thread about this trend.


Actually dudes and ladies just scroll up in the thread we talked about it a lil' earlier.

R Clem posted this on Feb 08th, 2010 at 10:59:56 am
MODERN RADIO PROMOTES CONTEMPORARY POLITICAL CENSORSHIP AND OPPRESSION OF FACTS.

I mean, which thread is that?

I hate to contradict Tom, but the thread you want is...this thread. Scroll up about 30 posts from here.

abomb posted this on Feb 08th, 2010 at 10:53:23 am
Hey guys, thanks for your concern, but I've come to accept the fact that I as a woman will at some point be ruining your life. Just ask any of my male friends! I am always like, "Do I look fat in this? Let's go see "Dear John." Turn down that music you like! Will you buy me tampons?"

Haha, reminds me of this:

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I'm getting confused now.

It's pretty weird to me that people are acting like Shockey is somehow the "face" of the Saints as a player.

Great coaching and execution, they deserved it and i think y'all know how hard i take the vikings losing, but it's pretty stupid to try to say they didn't "deserve" this superbowl victory.

part of being a champion is executing and not making mistakes, something the Saints did in both the Vikings game and the Superbowl....they had excellent defensive schemes and great execution on defense against two of the best QBs ever.

Also, Brees seems like generally a pretty good brother despite some heavy FCA stuff that comes out of his mouth too often for my tastes.

This was a fun superbowl to watch if you actually like the game of football.

Don't let Abomb lie to you dudes she only cares about one thing: the passionate love of a Little Person.

Can you imagine how much fun it would have been to watch this game in the French Quarter?

magma90210 posted this on Feb 08th, 2010 at 11:21:17 am

This was a fun superbowl to watch if you actually like the game of football.

I was thinking the same thing, R Clem. Man, I would've given body parts to be down there yesterday.

Responding to a tangent in this thread: Shawn Walker WAS briefly in a Who cover band that played a show or two back around 2000. Cinnamon Girl was Daltrey, and I don't remember who was Townsend and Entwhistle, but they were EXCELLENT! It was my first time seeing Shawn on drums, and, needless to say, my mind was blown. Had I known then that I would one day get to play in a band with that guy, I probably would've poo-ed myself right there in the Turf Club.

i didn't hate the who as much as some peeps from what it sounds, but either way: that stage set for the who was fucking rad as hell, that whole circular stage light rig was o_O

PoppaLarge,
Wait, what?

oh yeah also a lot of the ads were disgusting

Good point Mags, that stage was AMAZING!

I actually thought the stage light rig was pretty cool too. Almost too good to the point of being destracting from the band, but what the heck.

My wife had a good point after Daltrey did his scream and Townsend did his windmills: "Daltrey won't be able to talk tomorrow and Townsend won't be able to reach the top shelf of his pantry for a few days, but at least they can still do it."

My wife had a good point after Daltrey did his scream and Townsend did his windmills: "Daltrey won't be able to talk tomorrow and Townsend won't be able to reach the top shelf of his pantry for a few days, but at least they can still do it."

Speaking of Daltrey's scream, did anyone else notice they went to a wide shot and then a close of Pete during the scream? I'm pretty sure he probably really did it but for a seonc dI was wondering if they went to a tape for it.

I thought the Who we ok for being a totally shell of a band at this point

Abomb: I think you know what I'm talking about.

The Who were the Who, I didn't pay attention to any of the extraneous shit. It looked like D & T fronting Driveshaft, though. YOU ALL EVERYBODY.

Also, basically unrelated, but last night reminded me of this, Townshend's has been terrible ever since he switched from Gibson guitars to playing Strats

PoppaLarge:
sandusks?

yeah i don't know why he couldn't rock a telecaster at least if he wanted something lighter.

though we should probably be glad he's at least using something iconic and not some ergonomic space age PRS joint

Yeah but there Eric Clapton Signature models and he's been playing them since the 80s and it has something do w/ him not being as good a guitar player as Clapton or some weird ego thing

the Classical
2/08/10 11:51 AM

Also, basically unrelated, but last night reminded me of this, Townshend's has been terrible ever since he switched from Gibson guitars to playing Strats


Holy CRAP I never really thought about that but dang that's TOTALLY TRUE!

ugh i didn't know it was a clapton model...i think they have some kinda "high tech" "lace sensor" pickups and shit like that

the funny thing is he's like 10X better of a guitar player than clapton.

his "BBBBBRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNG" when the electrics first kick in on pinball wizard is worth 100 clapton solos alone (except the end part of "layla" where there find jimmy two times in a freezer in goodfellas, that rules, but i think that's mostly greg allman anyways)

You two keep that up and I'm a gonna clobber you with MY Strat.

Next year's halftime show = Moody Blues. Totally over the top. Graeme Edge recites mystical poems about football.

haha i almost bought a graeme edge band solo record because it featured adrian gurvitz of gun and the baker/gurvitz army

then i realized that edge was in moody blues

i think i may have gone too far down the record collector rabbit hole

Say whatever you will about The Who performance, it was still 9,000 times better than when they used to do those goofy Parade Float level song and dance number things.

Like where some Indiana Jones dude runs from rolling Boulder and it smashes into a wall, and then out of the hole comes:

"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! SMOOOKEY ROBINSON!"

And he bleets out a Motown medly thats all out of sync while he tries to act like he can still open his mouth wide enough with his new frozen plastic face, all while Sarah McLachlan plays the piano ontop of a paper mache valcano and below kids run around holding streamers.

sparks > the who

Emily posted this on Feb 08th, 2010 at 09:58:54 am
Normally I'm not too bothered by "man's man" themes, but I felt beaten over the head with "women really ruin us, you know? This guy over here knows what I'm talkin' about" to the point where, after about 5 ads with that message, I started to wonder if the advertisers realize that there are some women watching. In fact, I would guess the Superbowl is the only sporting event some people watch all year. The viewership of the SB is estimated to be 38% female.

It's insidious shit like this, these messages of "women are so full of petty bullshit and we're so above it, but we put up with it because you're fucking us" really do wear down one's psyche. You hear it enough and you watch enough sitcoms you start to look at your own partner and your guy friends and wonder "Shit, do they all secretly hate me? Nah, probably not. Well, MAYBE?"

As obvious as the misogyny was in these ads, I think the misandrony was just as awful. Were men really portrayed well in any of these horrible ads? To me it's just two sides of the same shitty coin. Somebody at our party put it as the "infantilization of men" which I'm sure is a common idea but one I hadn't really thought about before. Making men look like shit is completely tied to the oppression of women, as these ads made clear. So gross.

Ha ha, Soapy's a fag!

Heh.

(so that was supposed to be funny, of course)

Yeah, I may have been underwhelmed by the Who, but I didn't hate it, and it was still better than the average super bowl half time shows of yesteryear. WOBeef sums it up very well.

l while Sarah McLachlan plays the piano ontop of a paper mache valcano and below kids run around holding streamers.

^^this part kinda sounds awesome actually..

Soapy Kittens posted this on Feb 08th, 2010 at 02:14:16 pm
As obvious as the misogyny was in these ads, I think the misandrony was just as awful. Were men really portrayed well in any of these horrible ads? To me it's just two sides of the same shitty coin. Somebody at our party put it as the "infantilization of men" which I'm sure is a common idea but one I hadn't really thought about before. Making men look like shit is completely tied to the oppression of women, as these ads made clear. So gross.

I think the term you're looking for is "misandry." And I gotta disagree that the misandry was equally insidious, since men are clearly presented as the downtrodden victims of female oppressors. Men may be pathetic, but only pathetic in the face of emasculation, which isn't their fault. The infantilization offers an excuse. Women don't get that break.

Misandronogonism? Yeah, misandry. Thanks.

To me the advertising to men as though this is what speaks to them is pretty fucking offensive to men. Like I said, it's two sides of the same coin - women can't be shown like this if men aren't popularly conceived as being receptive to that idea.

For all the (correct and important!) talk about media portrayals of women impacting women's self-perception, I think the idea that men are just as influenced by the same phenomenon is underplayed. I really think the "male opressor/female victim" paradigm is way, way too simple for what's really going on and women aren't served by it.

Super Bowl, homeboy.

i blame the king of queens

Totally. That and Dharma and Greg. Also, the Saints' d-line.

Soapy, you'll notice I didn't disagree that it was misandrist, just that the misandry is equally awful. No one comes out looking good, but I still think the implications for women are worse, particularly when measured against the fact that, y'know, men still run the world.

So they're not exactly two sides of the same coin to me, unless it's a coin where one surface is a bit larger than the other. (TAI)

I can't believe more people aren't commenting on the Letterman ad, I'm still laughing about it

yeah that was great i bet letterman was even more bummed out by the outcome of the game too

Well... I MISSED the Letterman ad, OK????

Car racing is sport I'm sure Leno cares about

JRN - yeah, I guess my point is that the "which one is worse" thought process is wrong. They are both part of the same thing so there's no "worse."

OK, just googled the Letterman ad. Yeah, that's pretty great...


Letterman ad

Soapy Kittens posted this on Feb 08th, 2010 at 03:07:49 pm
JRN - yeah, I guess my point is that the "which one is worse" thought process is wrong. They are both part of the same thing so there's no "worse."

I don't think I understand. I'm sure we'll agree that women have to deal with a disproportionate amount of sex-based discrimination. How is that not "worse"?

Get a room you two.

I'm saying the way sexism works is not one-way Men V. Women. It's more complicated. Discrimination is something else entirely (though obviously related). And when men are portrayed as sexist pigs (in a way that makes women look awful, too) it supports sexism against both men and women.

I'm talking about the way media puts people in boxes. Men as much as women. It ain't good for anyone.

This is the Super Bowl 44 of thread hijacks to piss off football fans. Sorry everyone.

that letterman ad is perhaps the funniest thing he's done since, i dunno, around the time andy kaufman was last on his show.
good work.

God, you guys are such suckers. Discussing discrimination and misandry is exactly what Flow TV wants you to be doing right now

So true! Shit. Spike TV/Oxygen marathon, here I come.

OK, last word on the subject from me, sorry football people--

I don't think you answered my question, Soaps. I've already agreed that sexism can affect both men and women, and that it isn't good for anyone. That alone doesn't explain your comment that "there's no 'worse.'"

To me it seems self-evident that sexism, in its present state, is worse for women. Even if a particular message from the media is an equal offender (and I'd argue, again, that the "men are emasculated by their insufferable wives and girlfriends" trope is not), one side is getting kicked while it's down.

Fuckit, it's not like I've never started a thread that got used for nefarious purposes.

Sexism against women is sexism against men and vice versa. Ultimately. That's what I'm saying, agree or disagree.

Colts Fans -- All 11 of Them -- Welcome Team at Airport

2/09/2010 10:30 AM ET By Ryan Wilson

Here's how the optimist might look at it: the scene at the Indianapolis International Airport was the scaled-down, sober version of the impromptu parade that broke out in New Orleans. Instead of thousands of rabid fans lining the streets as the team motorcade made its way from the airport, Indy's faithful showed their support by staying home.

According to the Indianapolis Star, 11 fans greeted the Colts as they returned to town Monday afternoon.

Eleven.

"Win or lose, they're still our team," said Brownsburg resident Karen Calhoun, who carried a "Where's the parade" sign. The small group huddled together in the snow outside the closed Express Mail sorting facility at the airport...

Unfortunately, the team plane landed at a private terminal, the players and coaches quietly piled onto awaiting buses, and rolled off without getting within a few hundred feet of the 11 people in the greater-Indy area who thought it would be great fun to wait in the cold for the Super Bowl losers.

But that Midwestern spirit always shines through.

"We wanted to show our civil pride," said Paul Calhoun, Karen Calhoun's husband. And another onlooker, Marilyn Kurek, added "We still beat out 30 other teams."

They should put that on a t-shirt.

That sounds like it was written by someone from New Orleans. And a douchebag at that.

Soapy, I agree with you to a large extent...these ads make men look like dinks, and when I looked around the room at the guys watching the Super Bowl with me (heartchamp, coach, Jason from Evening Rig and our friend who lurks here [hi!!]) who are some of my oldest and dearest friends and are very high-end, evolved, complex men, much like yourself and JRN, and I felt bad that they had to put up with this crap. I believe my comment was, "Dudes: they're so simple! Food, sex and sports is all they need, amirite?"

That said, I don't think any of the guys looked at me and Mrs. heartchamp and wondered to themselves if we secretly hate them. Also, I'm guessing these ads were conceived of and made mostly by men.