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Are you sure it's not that kind? My work blocks this.
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ah cool. thanks brah
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Wow, great site!
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Ooh, I love this. Thanks SK!
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I can't wait to see what you guys are talking about... in 7 hours.
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Yes, I got outsourced
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someone bump this around 5:45 pm today so I do not forget
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I blogged about that Irina Werning "Now & Then" project the other day. It's amazing. A statement from her site:
“I love old photos. I admit being a nosey photographer. As soon as I step into someone else’s house, I start sniffing for them. Most of us are fascinated by their retro look but to me, it’s imagining how people would feel and look like if they were to reenact them today… A few months ago, I decided to actually do this. So, with my camera, I started inviting people to go back to their future.”
Another neat thing I came across - Photo Montages Created From Hundreds of Tourist Snapshots
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Somebody I follow on the Twitter posted a couple of those "Now & Then" photos the other day, and I was just totally enthralled. I love the concept and the execution. Thanks for posting the link to her site.
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adam
2/22/11 11:24 AM someone bump this around 5:45 pm today so I do not forget
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Ok, ok, I'll bump it in a couple of hours.
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BUMP FOR ADAM
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thanks!
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That site, the first one, is so dope.
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oh, tons of vintage nudity, too.
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that deathrainbow one is great
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This a good thread
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I think maybe there was a thread solely devoted to space photography at one time but I couldn't find it
Anyway, hitoric first photos of Mercury link
Cool stuff
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Reggie that tumblr is real good
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Ugh, this is going to make me all weepy again. The content and emotional impact of their work, and their deaths.
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I feel sick.
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yeah, its incredibly sad. Both of those guys never shied from inserting themselves right in the middle of conflicts - I think that's why much of their work is so powerful. Its easy to forget just how dangerous work it is.
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In a much less depressing note: Slate has a piece on strobist founder david Hobby today here link
It deals with something I personally get very frustrated with: media/people asking for free photos, while conversely saying how this new glut of amateur photographers will force the best photographers out there to have to rise above to be noticed.
I think overall this is good for photography. Still, hearing that Time Magazine cover photographer only made thirty one dollars for his shot is infinitely depressing.
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yeah, i went back and forth on if i was for this or not over the course of the article.
-part of the problem
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Wait, I said this new link was supposed to be less depressing and then I was like "oh how depressing."
Sorry, I will try and find some happier links to post next time
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sorry you messed up. post a link about photographing kittens.
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1. it's great that anyone can make great looking work cheaply and learn this stuff
2. it's horrible that people give away their work creating a atmosphere where photography is devalued to the point where major companies are asking for your stuff for free knowing someone will and they don't pay people who do good work
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Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about it. I would add that as simply knowing how to light things won't teach people how to take great photographs. There is still an element of knowing what makes a great picture that noone can teach someone. A lot of mediocre photographers have probably coasted by for a long time simply because they knew good lighting techniques.
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Exactly.
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I use my built in flash all the time. I don't like lugging my fancy flash around all the time and the built in can get surprisingly good results if used properly
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jonbehm
4/21/11 11:30 AM
In a much less depressing note: Slate has a piece on strobist founder david Hobby today here link
It deals with something I personally get very frustrated with: media/people asking for free photos, while conversely saying how this new glut of amateur photographers will force the best photographers out there to have to rise above to be noticed.
I think overall this is good for photography. Still, hearing that Time Magazine cover photographer only made thirty one dollars for his shot is infinitely depressing.
If you weren't engaged and I weren't married I'd hit on you right now
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Wow, my views on photography have never brought me much luck with the ladies before. ;)
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yeah, I remember you mentioning that one before. Some really great stuff. I wish I were better ast portraits
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aye yi yi!
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Cool! Wish I had had that idea
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Anyone else completely enamored by good Macro photos? I can literally start looking at macros before bed and BAM! its 2AM and I have been looking at Macros for like 2.5 hours.
Things that are usually too small to fully appreciate like spiders are awesome.
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can't say i am a fan of macro at all
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But look at that thing! I guess what appeals to me is this secret vibrant, scary and whimsicle world that exists all around us, but we are too big to notice. I can see why it wouldn't appeal to everyone.
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Adam, you should take macro shots of tiny bands that are made up of insects
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grossss
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the beetles!
....sorry.
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you macro spider people make me sick
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Yes!
I have a bunch of photographers' pages bookmarked at home. I'll try to remember to post some later.
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Hey what are your thoughts on the whole hdr photography trend?I think it can be done tastefully but I haven't seen a ton of it.
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I dislike it more than I dislike hipstamatic and the like
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really? it's got that HDR glow to it
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Yeah, I mean it does a little bit, but not nearly as bad as a lot of them I have seen. I guess I think of things like this as anagous to auto-tune. You can feature it and use it in a very tastful way (think Imogen Heap), or you can use it like amatuers (think Glee) or you can butcher it (pretty much all use in popular music).
I think that HRD has a place among legitimate techniques to make good photographs. I guess composite images in general give me the same feeling. Its not so much that it is used to create an altered reality, but rather a reality that is assembled to mimic the one we perceive with our eyes (who interpret the world around us by adjusting just an automatic setting on a camera constantly) or one that our eyes cannot see (like infrared or UV photography, that stuff is crazy!).
/ramblings
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yeah, i have a lot of time at work to wander the halls of flickr
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Adam, that is interesting. I can see how our interests in photography diverge. It seems like maybe the interaction between people and their environment and capturing a moment in time are what draw you in whereas I am mostly interested in capturing the environment to create a sense of place and altering the way we perceive things.
I think that since I find the type of photraphy you are interested in to be more difficult and less accesible I tend to be drawn away from it. I don't pretend to have a vast knowledge of techniques or the artform, I merely dabble.
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my thoughts on HDR I guess is that it's a cheap gimic used very poorly a lot of times to mostly just cover up the fact it's a boring photo. take away the HDR of that church photo you posted? it's just a boring poorly composed shot of a church. it's the same way i feel about hipstamatic and the like. it's a cheap gimic that mostly just covers up a boring photo. i played around with cross processing film for a while but really most of the shots i took were boring.
However, none of those things are as offensive as selective color. Fuck that forever.
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It seems like maybe the interaction between people and their environment and capturing a moment in time are what draw you in whereas I am mostly interested in capturing the environment to create a sense of place and altering the way we perceive things.
i'd say that's right on
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I just had to google hipstamatic, and yeah, fake vintage can suck it. Selective color can too, I am with you there.
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I think the further a photo gets from the reality of when it was taken the further away from photography it gets. While the camera doesn't see as well as the human eye, and I believe that photo editing can be used to enhance a photo to try and regain that perception of what your eye saw, however once you start to get well beyond that you are basically just creating new images that have nothing to do with the reality they were initially based on.
That being said somethings I like to fuck around with my shots for fun too - but I am not as much of a true punk photographer as Adam. I do loathe HDR though, just because it involves boring pictures, little no no creativity, and the result looks fake.
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"creative processing" or whatever you want to call it can help a photo, however my main thought on it (in my own work as well) is that it mostly is an attempt to cover up a photo that can't stand on its own
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Adam, some of your favorites actually look like they could be hipstamatic - I know they aren't but the effect is essentially the same. For instance in a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/thechickenkid/5787519274/in/faves-waltzcore/">this shot</a> would you still like it if you found out that the light leak was created with some sort of app? is the difference not in the image but solely how it was taken?
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I like the kind of effect sometimes, it can work well in some photos like that one. I would be a little disappointed if it was a fake light leak. There's cool effects you can do like that which can lead to unpredictable surprises. An app is usually going to lead into a predictable and patterned effect.
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I think that most of the examples would otherwise be boring photos speaks more to the skill of the people using it, than the credibility of the technique. I think that the limitation is that it has to be a photo that is recreatable under different camera settings over the period of maybe 30 seconds, so it is hard to get any kind of action.
I agree that the further you take a photo from its original exposure the further from photography it gets but I am ok with that. The further from photorphy it gets the closer to digital art it gets? i think of infrared is sort of this way.
Sure, they are photos that may have been boring if they were taken with a normail exposure, but since they are the product of a different method of capturing light, and not post processing, they have a special association in my mind.
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Those last two don't look like HDR's to me
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I think that's infrared? I kind of like the 3rd one
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Maybe I just don't really like landscape photos that much. At the very least I prefer a more urbanized landscape.
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uh i think landscape photography. i like pictures of people.
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Like, I don't understand the appeal of Ansel Adams at all
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beautiful photos. but perfect for your grandpa's den
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see i like photographing people the most. now my problem is how do i not seem like i'm intruding and shoving a camera in people's face? i love to get my picture taken. but some people not so much.
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I don't really like landscape photography but somehow I still end up with lots of stupid landscape photos. I think I just get lazy - it takes either a very quick hand or a very bold person to snap lots of pictures of strangers on the street. I am not particularly bold or quick. I like music photography in part because I can take pictures of people without feeling self-concious about it. Really, any sort of performance I guess.
One of my main photographic goals though is to get better at shooting strangers in every day life though
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i sometimes bring my camera into work and set it on top of the line and whenever someone walks in take a picture. kinda like street photography but it's my friends and coworkers. so less of a worry about getting punched in the face. this is one of my favorites from one of those nights
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beautiful photos. but perfect for your grandpa's den
Haha, yeah that is probably true. I am not crazy about the landscape stuff that Ansel Adams has but I like some of his photos.
I would love to see someone take some urban infrared photos but I tend to see a lot of nature and landscape.
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I'm with you on that jon. I wish I had the guts that <a href="a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBARi09je8">Bruce Gilden does</a>.
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that guy is craaaazy
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i avoid shows mostly so i dont have to see show photographers crouched in the same corner shooting the same digital photos. live music shots are distasteful and boring- not to mention musicians are generally boring people.
the fans are always more interesting, so many awesome things going on in the crowd. nothing ever profound happens on stage, you know, at least for me anyway.
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That's a good reason not to go to shows. Music photographers ruin everything for everyone.
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its just so embarrassing to watch. its really intolerable, 9 volt battery on my tongue.
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*live shows, not Mark Cohen. He's really fantastic.
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yeah, they are like rapists but worse
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ha! meh who cares. people take pictures at a show. when i went to SXSW one year those photographers were just terrible. but most of the time it doesn't bother me
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There is one local photog that has ruined a show or three for me when I was just trying to watch a show. Mostly it's cool, but sometimes.....
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is he small with glasses?
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we're all assholes, it's true
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I don't think this person is on the board.
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oh wait! flash dude who does all the hardcore shows. man messed me up a that Thou show
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how does a photographer ruin a show for you? Also, was it me?
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well this dude takes tons of pictures and his flash is almost always pointed into the crowds eyes it seems. so constant flash of light directly into my eyeballs
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It wasn't you.
I'm talking about the kind who pretty much gets RIGHT UP in the fucking front and is damn near mingling with performers while they play and generally being completely intrusive and distracting while thoughtlessly and inconsiderately getting "that perfect shot."
It's not you.
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wait...that sounds like me. Are you sure?
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oh, and yeah I get that flash issue - most of the photographers I have seen don't use flash much though, if at all.
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this probably isn't the person, but there's a local music photographer that has a flickr group dedicated to them getting in the way
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No.
I'm sure a lot of us know who it is, though.
Good photographer if you aren't at the show. Nice person too, but YEESH!
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hahahaha, i love it. that flickr group is gooood!
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Personally I don't think I have been at a show where a photographer "ruined" it for me. Maybe that's because I have more patience for other photographers (except Adam, that guy even ruins the shows he's not at)
I have had a number of shows ruined by idiot fans though who do far more annoying things than take pictures. For instance: talk on the phone, get wasted and act obnoxious, ignore the show and talk loudly to friends, fight with people, etc.
Sometimes though all a person needs to do is see that you have a camera at a show and they'll look at you though like you just raped their sister. Never really understood that.
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Like I said, it is one person, and these shows are usually of the super arty/minimalist/sithefuckdownandshutthefuckup variety when moving around can occasionally be louder than the performance.
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Oh, I just met that photographer (from the flickr group) at a show recently. I was tempted to take a picture with him in it just so I could post it to that group. he didn't ever get in my way though
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There used to be a girl who i have no idea who she was that shot at the Turf Club once in a while that would climb on stage with the band
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I remember her. Because that was annoying.
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it's mostly that they are up front right next to the stage and they look silly. besides the band it is the first thing you see. in conjunction with the fact that most musicians are boring -in a live setting- watching someone attempt to capture that """magik shot""" is just embarrassing to me. the way digital dorks just crawl around like greed-monkeys on the border of the stage in halted poses just about makes me vom.
i am ashamed to admit i take photos. i wont talk trash about guitar players because i cant even play a trash can. i just think the music scene in general is fucking tiresome, and portraits of live musicians are a symptom of laziness, and certainly doesn't capture anything significant for myself.
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btw, i remember seeing some of adam's stuff at treehouse a while back (couple years?) that had some street photography in it- looked good.
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well you convinced me, i'm throwing my camera in the garbage when i get home
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That's OK; I'm sure you have more than one.
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i'm still a beginner at the street stuff
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You should embrace the street stuff Adam, I'm sure you'd be wonderful. Esp considering the amount of output you've done in other avenues.
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thanks. i'd like to more and plan on it.
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I'll bet the issue photographers have with cheap and easy digital photography is the same one those guys who used to harvest ice from the arctic had when people invented refrigeration.
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Yeah...artic ice is superior, but freezer door ice is an ultimate luxury. Like air conditioning up your pant leg. It has to be a sin. I'm pretty tired.
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no correlation whatsoever. its more like skateboarders who can't stand longboarders.
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6/09/11 1:59 PM
It seems like maybe the interaction between people and their environment and capturing a moment in time are what draw you in whereas I am mostly interested in capturing the environment to create a sense of place and altering the way we perceive things.
i'd say that's right on
You forgot cats
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Hey Adam, or whoever: Do you ever sell photo prints? I am interested in the prospect of trying to getting some prints made and taking a crack at the "Grandma's Den" market and am not sure where to get started.
Also, as a hobbyist, is what is a good place to start posting images? Do you guys ever mess around with watermarks, or is that overthinking it too much?
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ok, basically: should I go with Flikr or somewhere else?
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yeah i can't think of a better place to post images than flickr.
for selling prints, i have no idea. never had any luck with that.
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Good to know. Thanks guys.
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internet k-hole. Lots and lots of photos with no real relation to each other. A couple NSFW.
Maybe this doesn't really count as photography.
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If it can't be photography, at least let it be NSFW.
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I did spot one of Sean Young's Blade Runner polaroids on there. And a random picture of a young Iggy standing against a wall.
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Orbit that site is oddly hypnotizing. I can't believe I just scrolled through the hole thing.
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Maybe I'm romanticizing it in my mind, but i'd love to be a photojournalist in a war zone
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There is nothing worse than that HDR filtered crap. So bad.
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UGH on that
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Agreed! It's creepy.
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like i kind of said before, people need to stop worrying about stupid gimmicks and focus on taking good pictures
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wow that's dumb
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thanks for the how-to, sharyn. those look great!
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yeesh, those moving eye gifs are just creepy
I have been working on trying to use a similar concept though for concert photography though but have not succeeded whatsoever so far. I have tried to experiment with creating a kind of 3D looking image like this one
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Yeah, I feel the same way about just taking "regular" photographs but I do enjoy experimenting as well with different mediums/techniques
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hahaha, theres a whole 2 parts to that photo you can click on. either him, or not him.
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bet you can add some sweet bokeh, brah
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SK, thanks for that Isaac Cordal link. That's cool as hell.
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jonbehm
6/21/11 9:20 AM yeesh, those moving eye gifs are just creepy
I have been working on trying to use a similar concept though for concert photography though but have not succeeded whatsoever so far. I have tried to experiment with creating a kind of 3D looking image like this one
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Yeah, I feel the same way about just taking "regular" photographs but I do enjoy experimenting as well with different mediums/techniques
wow i really like that, have any more pictures like that?
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re: soapy and remodeling
I have only found a few other good examples of that type of photography around - if I remember the others I will post some more.
And I haven't quite figured out how to get the effect. My thought is that it is two photographs taken simultaneously from slightly differing angles. Then you make a gif out of the photos and get a kind of 3-D effect. That's my theory but it remains untested
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My thought is that it is two photographs taken simultaneously from slightly differing angles. Then you make a gif out of the photos and get a kind of 3-D effect. That's my theory but it remains untested
I have a camera that does something like this but I've never tried it
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Oh, I should add - I didn't take the picture I posted above. its just an example of the effect I have tried to figure out
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adam, are you talking about something like this?
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nevermind on that last post
I fucking WANT that camera
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I'll sell you mine for $5000
or you can borrow it and see if it works (if I can find it)
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They sell them for ten bucks on amazon. I just don't know where you can still get that type of film processed
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i think it's standard film, just a sequence of photos
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yeah, I was just looking at that site as well. Looks like the cheapest method would be to get the 35mm processed normally, scan the prints, and then make a gif yourself
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huh. turns out that – ≠ =
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Is that guy pretending to be on Dragonball Z?
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hey adam, you're gonna love this
To be fair, come of these photos would be amazing regardless of the fact that they were taken hipstamatically. The light leak effect doesn't actually make any of the photos "better" in and of itself
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yeah those look niiiiiiiiice. I think the Olympus PEN that came out a couple years ago has pushed some companies to make nicer classic look digital cameras.
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It even comes with a vintage leather case. I just saw a friend's photos from one and they look great
DROOL
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Grossssssssssssssssssssssssss.
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hdr k-mart!
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Man, a dog's head comig out of a martini is SO TRUE
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Also scrolling through the photos on that site really makes me wish a comet was about to destroy the Earth.
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How'd they get that dog in the glass?
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a little magic trick other photographers can't do!
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"i'm so far ahead of the dog in a martini glass market while those other guys try and figure out how to make the dog stay in the glass!"
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"hello, Getty? yeah, I have a lock on this dog/martini thing. Let's talk Time Magazine, baby"
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I like dogs and I like martinis but I never dreamed of combining them. Also, that's either a huge martini or a tiny dog.
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the trick is cutting the dogs head off so it fits in the huge martini glass, I think
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LITTLE DOG!
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Cool I'ma try it when I get home
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THINK ABOUT IT
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Gross
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(PS Jerry had a great photo using the Time Magazine cover we used to sell, but Time Magazine asked that we not use their cover anymore.)
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I don't know why i didn't read any of the notes as well yet
I have been in photography for 28 years. I took an leave for about 5 years due to an illness. Then was amazed at how far digital had come in my absence
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adam
9/23/11 3:49 PM I don't know why i didn't read any of the notes as well yet
I have been in photography for 28 years. I took an leave for about 5 years due to an illness. Then was amazed at how far digital had come in my absence
Sounds like a really bad case of restless leg
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By the way one of our users made over $1000 in weekend takeing photos of dogs!
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The photo of the cake is from a wedding I did recently. The topper was so heavy that it did not stay on the cake, and it fell, luckily onto the back, from the top. I saved the day by whipping out my trusty portable screen and taking a photo of the topper before the ceremony started, and then took a photo of the cake without the topper. In Green Screen Wizard, I used the topper as the foreground and the cake photo as the background. As you can see, it worked PERFECTLY!!! The bride was so happy when she saw the final photo!
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a testimonial:
"As an online retailer of bathroom vanities and vessel sinks, I know how important it is that my pictures are of only the highest quality. So I decided to give the Green Screen Wizard a try, and I have to say, I'm absolutely thrilled with the results!"
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Ken,
We love your product.
I could go on and on. This sort of photography would be impossible or VERY time consuming without your program. My total business is founded on this. Also I very much like the plug in version. It solved many problems.
Phil Prosser.
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Nice, those are pretty intense
I tried to photograph people in Jamaica once and was told by one guy that if I didn't stop they would beat the shit out of me and take my camera. Was pretty stupid of me to go walkin' around town with my honky-ass self trying to shoot anyways. Kind of terrifying experience though
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I've seen this Exactitudes series before but was reminded of it again today.
Photographer Ari Versluis and profiler Ellie Uyttenbroek have worked together since October 1994. Inspired by a shared interest in the striking dress codes of various social groups, they have systematically documented numerous identities over the last 16 years. Rotterdam’s heterogeneous, multicultural street scene remains a major source of inspiration for Ari Versluis and Ellie Uyttenbroek, although since 1998 they have also worked in many cities abroad.
They call their series Exactitudes: a contraction of exact and attitude. By registering their subjects in an identical framework, with similar poses and a strictly observed dress code, Versluis and Uyttenbroek provide an almost scientific, anthropological record of people’s attempts to distinguish themselves from others by assuming a group identity. The apparent contradiction between individuality and uniformity is, however, taken to such extremes in their arresting objective-looking photographic viewpoint and stylistic analysis that the artistic aspect clearly dominates the purely documentary element.
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A couple previews of the new Magnum Contact Sheets book which looks fascinating: (I guess maybe this belongs in tje photo book thread)
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This special and important photography book presents, for the first time, the very best contact sheets created by Magnum photographers. Contact sheets tell the truth behind a photograph. They unveil its process, and provide its back story. Was it the outcome of what a photographer had in mind from the outset? Did it emerge from a diligently worked sequence, or was the right shot down to pure serendipity – a matter of being in the right place at the right time? This landmark publication provides the reader with a depth of understanding and a critical analysis of the story behind a photograph, the process of editing it, and the places and ways in which the selected photographs were used. For anyone with a deep appreciation of photography and a desire to understand what goes into creating iconic work, Magnum Contact Sheets will be regarded as the definitive volume.
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“Monumental Chaos” – three massive lightning bolts hit the earth within 15 seconds at the Voortrekker Monument just outside Pretoria, South Africa. Photographer Mitchell Krog says: “In nearly six years of storm photography this single image portrays, more than any other image I’ve taken, the sheer chaos and power of a lightning storm.” (Mitchell Krog / Barcroft USA)
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That is fucking cool.
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so awesome!
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That weird focus-after-the-fact "light field" camera is now available.
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"The Lytro Light Field Camera boasts an 8X optical zoom lens with a constant f/2 aperture"
This is actually pretty impressive but I imagine it has to have different shutter speeds for different levels of light? There doesn't seem to be any manual method for adjusting that. I guess it just does it automatically which would be a huge pain (for me anyway). I don't really see anything about picture quality either.
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I'm guessing it's not much beyond a fun gimick camera right now
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hands on review of the lytro
Looks cool but it's got a long long way to go before it's something beyond a fun toy. Looks like you have no control over anything, there's just a power and a shutter button and you can zoom from the touchscreen.
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"....mark our words -- when Lytro integrates this kind of tech into a larger, more potent shooter: game over."
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That Lytro bums me out. It's not quite photography but something else. Completely artless technology.
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love this Winogrand interview
GW: When you photograph—there’s [sic] things in a photograph. Right?
Yeah.
GW: So this can’t help but be a document or whatever you want to call it. It’s automatic. I mean if you photograph a cake of soap, in the package or out of it, it goes without saying—
But that’s not what you’re concerned about. I mean, your concern is photography.
GW: That’s it. And I have to photograph where I am.
If you were somewhere else—if for some reason you went to Arizona or Alaska, would you photograph—
GW: Then that’s what the pictures would look like, whatever those places look like.
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I photograph to find out what something will look like photographed
Oh I like this guy.
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I saw a photograph that—there’s a photograph that had “Kodak” and there’s a kid holding a dog—
GW: Yeah.
—and the people kind of wandering in and out. Now, it might be due to my own ignorance or something, but could you give me like a straight answer as to what you’re trying to say in that photograph?
GW: I have nothing to say.
Nothing to say? Then why do you print it?
GW: I don’t have anything to say in any picture.
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I don’t have anything to say in any picture.
awesome
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All this makes me want to get out there and shoot all day
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I posted this somewhere else once I think, but there's a kickstarter for Everybody Street and I hope it gets made. Documentary on street photography with Gilden, Boogie, Ricky Powell, etc
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So apparently this is a real thing:
Daryl Hall (of Hall & Oates)
Announces Instagram Photo Contest
In celebration of Daryl Hall's recently released fifth solo album Laughing Down Crying, he has launched the Laughing Down Crying Instagram Photo Contest
1. Using the Instagram Camera App, take a photo of someone either laughing, laying down or crying.
2. Share your photo(s) on twitter and/or Facebook and make sure to tag the photo with #DarylHallContest.
3. Prizes include an iPod Touch and more.
link
WHO WANTS IN?
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hahaha, I'm glad this is still a thing with an internet based contest:
9. WINNER'S LIST. For the names of the winners, send a self-addressed, stamped
envelope to: Sneak Attack Media Attn: Daryl Hall Photo Contest 118 E. 28th Street, Suite
301 New York, NY 10016
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keep this shit comin, i love it.
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wow, that looks just like what people want to think NY looks like!
also, please send more info about girl in NY Dolls shirt, holy COW waddababe!
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i could look at that smile all day long!
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2006 interview with Mexican photojournalist Enrique Metinides
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M: On one occasion at the restaurant some officers came to eat from the Seventh Delegation, a police delegation. It was half a block from the restaurant. And when I showed them my photographs to the officers, they invited me to come to the delegation to take pictures. So I would show up at the delegation to photograph the dead, the detained, the totaled cars out front. My collection grew.
H: They invited you themselves?
M: They invited me to the delegation. And so, the first picture I took was this one. [He shows me a picture of a police officer holding up a severed head.] He was murdered. They placed his neck on the train tracks and it cut off his head.
H:Hijole.
M: And this picture, when I took it, I was about to turn twelve.
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this is kind of awesome
On the periphery of the gallery, visitors looked through images that Moriyama had shot in Tokyo over the past fifteen years, choosing which ones would fill their versions of a book called “TKY.” The center of the gallery was a bustling production space, where Moriyama and his team Xeroxed, folded, and then assembled each visitor’s selections into a one-of-a-kind, staple-bound, signed edition of “TKY,” complete with a silk-screened cover.
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oh, look at mr. fancy pants New Yorker reader
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Kubrick's snapshots are wonderful.
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I kind of want to buy a bunch of them from the link
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yeah, those are really nice
Do you ever think about the idea that a lot of older photographs out there people seem to enjoy purely because they are evocative of another time? Like the Kubrick shot of the guy getting off the plane. Back when that was taken I wonder if it was just mundane, everyday life, but now it's like "look at that old plane! The double breasted coat and fedora! The way airline employees used to dress!"
It makes you wonder what kind of everyday scenes today will really resonate forty years from now. Like if I saw a picture of a modern equivilent of the same scene today I would probably think "yeah, that's boring." But forty years from now it might be more: "people used to fly in planes!"
Am I making sense? how much of as scene like that (and many old photos) is simply nostalgia and how much is photographic skill? Is that picture (and many like it) shot in such a way that transcends the time in which it was taken, or is it "good" precisely because of the amount of time that has passed?
Its interesting to me to think about this stuff.
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Wow.
I especially love the one of the girl walking down the steps at Columbia!
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I get what you're saying Jon, I think the nostalgia definately adds a bit to it but a lot of these shots I think would stand up as modern photos as well. Some less than others, the guy walking off the airplane steps I think relies on more on the nostalgia factor than others.
I missed the girl walking down the steps one the first pass, i like it a lot and it makes me feel like a book is going to be dropped on my head at any moment.
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Really it's kind of similar to the hipstamatic discussion, the "is this a good photo or am i distracted by unreal colors?" thing
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The Kubrick shots are probably a bad example because, yeah, most of these shots would stand up regardless. I guess I am thinking of the broader spectrum of older photography. A lot of times I see stuff and I think it looks really cool, but then when I stop and ask myself "why" it looks cool, its because of a factor like simple nostalgia
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also, I don't really mean it as a critique. I just think its interesting to think about what I might photograph today that in the future will look evocative of this time period, or iconic in some way
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galdamn that is some creepy shit!
Also, want to see that movie! One of the kickstarter rewards is a walking tour of NYC with the director and Ricky Powell. Bet that would be pretty interesting. If youo had 200 dollars to spare
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I came to post the Gilden clip that's in Sharyn's link but haven't read this since it was posted
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deja vu all over again
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I mean that maier stuff is great but it was just discussed in another thread - I think maybe the "photography books" one
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Obviously I missed that other thread update, so maybe linking it would be nicer than just pointing out my gaffe.
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so here's an open question if anyone has an opinion:
I was recently asked by an artist I like if he could use some of my photos I had taken of him for free publicity shots.
Normally I don't really do this because when photogs give shots away for free it makes it harder for other photogs to ever make money off of theirs (which is especially tough on people who do it for a living). Its just bad for the photography profession all around. I feel like when I give this response though generally people seem to act like I am being a dick about it (even though I am polite). Even people who are otherwise reasonable.
So what gives? Am I in the wrong here? In the age of copyright infringement basically not existing, am I just being stubborn? I am not sure what to do with this particular dude.
Advice would be appreciated if forthcoming
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is it a BIG ARTIST?
or a liiiiiiiittle tiny baaaaaaaby artist
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Not a huge artist, but depends on how you look at it. Big in some circles I guess.
Soapy, are you saying its annoying that you have a tendency to think about that or that its annoying that some shots are purely nostalgic?
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I think I know what you mean. I catch myself sometimes wanting to take shots of old things, not necessarily because they are interesting but simply because they are old. I am trying to do less of that kind of thing
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Your grandparents must be very sad.
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"sorry grandma, old people just aren't that visually interesting"
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"Here, put your redskins helmet on grandma. The guys down at Getty are gonna love this!"
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if it is an artist who can make a modest living off their stupid music, ask for money
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Good call. Asked for fifty bucks which is still pretty damn cheap for a couple of high-res photographs. We'll see what he says.
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No go. The whole "I'm an artist, I'm not in any position to pay for this" deal. Fuck. Will probably work something out still because I'm a stupid pushover.
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I'm sure they pay for instruments and to record and shit. No reason photos are any different.
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You're an artist too, you're in no position to give away everything for free
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adam, after we have a few drinks tonight maybe you can help me compose an indignant email
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They can take their own photos if they want them for free. Don't give in.
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RandiFountain
12/28/11 1:54 PM
They can take their own photos if they want them for free. Don't give in.
One of my 2012 resolutions is to not give in and give photos away for free.
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Hmm, of those top photography books I think the Nomad one looks pretty interesting, and Venus with Biceps might be cool. The Katrina one looks awful though, if it is what I think it is, which is holga photography of toys depicting scenes from the flood? Meh
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I am usually not crazy about landscape photography but some of those salt flats shots are amazing
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Yeah, I like the simplicity of the photos. The night timelapse ones are really cool.
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but, dude.....the dichotomy, dude....
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gross
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better
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Japan.
Yep.
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<a ref="http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2012/01/06/this-week-in-photography-books-friedlander/">Friedlander self portraits book</a>
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love it
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That logic is like saying that a single car cost the company the entire cost of the factory. I agree with his principle, but not his logic.
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Magnum's Postcards from America is pretty awesome.
I want my job to be traveling around the country with some of the world's best photographers and just taking pictures.
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Thanks for posting that Adam! I'm going to show that series to my Dad.
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is that a video game?
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enter the void
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Oh hi, my office.
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soapy, those pics were taken w/ an iphone?
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Hot legs those B & W photos are amazing.
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THIS THREAD IS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!
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I don't know why all of the boxers seem to be children...
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that plane pic is amazing
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that's harpo. not groucho.
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that's the opposite of something I understand
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It turns out that Rémi Ochlik, the war photographer recently killed in Syria was actually a pretty mazing photographer.
here is some of his best stuff.
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Love these. Oh man, the poor cat with miniature violin!
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poorcool cat
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A pilot at Fairlop airfield in Essex (now part of Greater London) has a haircut during a break between sweeps, November 1942.
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Kodak content x-posted to Additional R.I.P.s.
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Nice.
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Frida Kahlo's Private Stash Of Pictures
"Photography was in Kahlo's blood. Her father, Guillermo, a German immigrant, made his living as a photographer, which he learned from his father. And one recurring motif in Frida's family photos are Guillermo's photographic self-portraits."
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Civil war era hipster
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It's pretty much straight out of the current RRL website
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now that's something i can enjoy
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Oooooh. I like!
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That black cat audition series is seriously one of my favorite things to look at right now.
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Double Identity by Caroline Briggs. Stacked photos of identical twins. The photographer herself is a twin:
The battle between wanting to be alike, yet craving an identity separate from your real-life clone, is one I have lived. By creating a single portrait from two people poses questions about their relationship and their desire - or lack of desire - to live completely separate lives.
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Love those.
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whoa love them
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i'm with Soapy on this one.
hella anxiety attackkkkkkkk
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Hahaha, you guys.
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what else you guys afraid of? the dark?
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Thanks everyone for reminding me of my greatest fear: a plane crash in the middle of the ocean in the dark
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I bet less people have died in a plane crash in the ocean than have died from being afraid of the dark
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Tell it to Amelia Aerheart brah
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Soapy, i understand your pain.
i will huddle in that weird little cabin area of the boat with you.
laying in a fetal position, gently sobbing, stuffing fistfulls of valium into every hole of my body.
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i <a href="http://ffffound.com/"ffffound</a> them
check the urls for the source
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i was vacationing in burma.
woke up from a nap to find myself stuck on this vessel.
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that is the coolest lady i've ever seen
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Holy wow! 870,000 never-before-seen vintage photos of NYC hit the Internet
"The New York City Department of Records has launched an online gallery featuring 870,000 historical photos, maps, audio and motion picture recordings dating as far back as the 1880s. Included in the online gallery—a 1980s-era collection that includes a photo of every house and building in the city (collected originally for tax appraisal purposes)."
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hahaha. (soapy is kind of right.)
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oh man, that middle one of neight's gave me vertigo. how'd kid keep that HAT on his head?!?!?!
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oh man, neight.
i feel like puking.
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I want those chairs.
I mean, not literally those, because I'm sure they're soaked with stoli and jizz or whatever, but chairs like those.
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Those are cool looking chairs. For tall people. I'd sit on one of those and my stumpy little legs would stick straight out.
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My house is furnished in black squares, but some red squares would be welcome.
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I want to live there. In that photograph.
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That looks a lot like one of my old cats. He was super smart and super tough. All killer.
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That guy doesn't know how to do a fucking pull-up
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That's just where he passed out. People weren't into comfort back then.
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Haha, classical. that is classic.
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I am impressed by the Impersonators series by Nicolas Silberfaden
"Due to the current economic, social and cultural crisis in The United States of America today, I have decided to do a photographic project consisting of a series of studio portraits of superhero and celebrity impersonators that live and work in the city of Los Angeles. Most of them unemployed Americans, they decided to suit up with their costumes and hit the streets, animate parties and events in efforts to make ends meet. Making them pose in their costumes against a colorful backdrop, I ask them to manifest feelings of genuine sadness – honest emotions that are a consequence of our current times. The result is a somber, striking visual image that contradicts the iconic nature of strength and moral righteousness typical in American superhero and celebrity imagery. Creating the illusion that Superman does exist – that he too was fallible and affected by America’s downturn."
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Haha. I'm sorry but Sad Aqua-Man made me LOL.
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Aqua man is great.
The optimus prime is also a choice photo.
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This is an interesting article about a new kind of camera emphasizing time / motion over space.
<a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2012/10/15/jay_mark_johnson_s_very_unusual_camera_emphasizes_time_over_space.html<link</a>
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whoa, Julius Shulman sucks REALLY BAD.
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what?
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whoa, Julius Shulman sucks REALLY BAD.
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I will second adam's what?
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explain yourself
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Technical achievements aside, I find that sort of faux-ironic/critical photography to amount to tastless, rich-worshipping, architectural pornography.
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I'm not sure what qualifies it as "faux-ironic"
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architectural pornography maybe
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Well, you know when people get worked up about 'ironic racism' and such? As in, a tongue-and-cheek transgression of boundaries that gets repeated so much that it loses any self-consciously intended wit, folding back over into pure offensiveness? It's kinda like that to me.
Or like Penthouse magazine. "Art porn". Call a spade a spade.
In other words, his work seems to be trying to 'say something' about contemporary life, but.......... "OOOOH LA LA" wins ultimately.
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Man I don't have a clue what you're saying. Talk on a level that idiots can read.
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OK:
Or like Penthouse magazine. "Art porn". Call a spade a spade.
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I think you're reading too much into the photos. They're just good photos of cool architecture of the era.
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Are they old or new? Maybe I'm dumb.
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They're from the 50s and 60s mostly
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oh man, I'm dumb. I thought this was NEW photography.
Please delete all my pretentious claptrap.
Have you guys seen Julius Shulman's work? It's AWESOME.
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You should stop thinking about stuff so much
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Wait, so he sucks because you don't like the meaning that you assume is intrinsic to his photos?
I am new to Shulman. From what I just looked up I would say his photos are mostly pretty boring.
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I guess if you don't like photos of 50s and 60s modern architecture then yes they'd be boring
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Most architectural photography in general I think just doesn't stir my loins. Not its fault
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For the most part I'd say it doesn't do a lot for me but I love the era and types of houses he photographed. So I guess it's the subject more?
However, this is a killer photo either way:
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dunderchief
11/07/12 3:16 PM
Wait, so he sucks because you don't like the meaning that you assume is intrinsic to his photos?
ASSUMED PAST TENSE SORRY
---Yeah, I'm kinda actually blown away that these photos are from the 1960s. Pretty slick. Also part of the reason I assumed they were newer.
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ya, that's a cool photo and I have seen it before. Like I said my opinion was based off of just a few things I looked up fast. While architectural photography generally isn't my bag, there are exceptions like the one above
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Time to repost this Winogrand interview
...But you return to certain things, though, which have more to do than just with place. Like you’ve got a thing about dogs no matter where they are.
GW: Dogs are everyplace.
You’ve got a thing about, say, personal injury.
GW: That has to do with photography—I’m not interested in injuries. Believe me I’m not.
What about the reoccurrence of, say, oh, monkeys which goes back—
GW: Listen, it’s interesting;but it’s interesting for photographic reasons, really.
What are photographic reasons?
GW: Basically, I mean, ah—well, let’s say that for me anyway when a photograph is interesting, it’s interesting because of the kind of photographic problem it states—which has to do with the . . . contest between content and form. And, you know, in terms of content, you can make a problem for yourself, I mean, make the contest difficult, let’s say, with certain subject matter that is inherently dramatic. An injury could be, a dwarf can be, a monkey—if you run into a monkey in some idiot context, automatically you’ve got a very real problem taking place in the photograph. I mean, how do you beat it?
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If I wasn't really busy at work right now I would love to bring up my favorite photographic argument "Time doesn't make a photograph better, and/or a boring photo of a man is still a boring photo of a man if that man happens to be John Lennon"
(from the title of my forthcoming dissertation)
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jesus, dunder, we have some arguing to do. you are that much of a formalist?
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That argument is a tough one to crack. Good luck!
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I was just going to say, reminds my of Russian Formalism, The New Criticism, etc.
NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
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YES THERE IS.
the formalist argument is entirely predicated upon the belief that there is an objectively good or right way of creating art. the purpose being to elevate the status of critics and artists themselves as vanguards of quality. its a shitty theory that not only makes little sense logically but is equally dubious on moral grounds for its masturbatory and protectionist girders that essentially say "i am better than you" to everyone not deemed properly educated.
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BOOM.
Thank you for winning for me a long-standing argument I've had with doug about this shit.
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ha Is it like the Beer snobs who are like, "You have to sip this one slowly with rare prime rib, but only after 6pm when there is a full moon?" Fuck it man, drink it if you like it.
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There is no actual ART without a context. That's an illusion brought about by the convenient exclusion of one's subjective perspective from the aesthetic apparatus BOOM.
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I dont follow you, study. Is what like what?
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Basically just saying you don't need a degree in art history to appreciate what appeals to you and F the peeps who are snobbish about it.
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Not a formulist you guys. I'll show you my birth certificate.
Seriously, I will be back to argue my point when I am less busy with work. In the meantime feel free to make all the anti-formulist agruments you want in case someone shows up who wants/has time to argue with them
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i think he said formalist.
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Boring, guys. Just post good picture links.
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Also show us your birth certificate
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so study do you hate all of us or just some of us I NEED 2 KNO.
Cuz it just looks like we're discussing shit. Not telling anyone WHY they should or shouldn't like something.
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I'm not hating anyone. More pics please.
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I heard the internet has a lot of pictures and stuff, did you guys check there yet?
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yeah, I just looked on google- not too much coming up for 'cool pictures', so maybe we could discuss interesting theoretical perspectives instead? Anyone?
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i already shot my anti-formalist load. sorry, bro.
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WTF, i just found a cool picture, guys!!!!:
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This was the first result when I searched 'cool pictures'. AAAAAAAANNNNNDDDDDD: I know the girl who took it.
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"the formalist argument is entirely predicated upon the belief that there is an objectively good or right way of creating art. the purpose being to elevate the status of critics and artists themselves as vanguards of quality. its a shitty theory that not only makes little sense logically but is equally dubious on moral grounds for its masturbatory and protectionist girders that essentially say "i am better than you" to everyone not deemed properly educated."
This wasn't what I was arguing but this argument does have me intrigued. Are you saying that all art is inherently equal? There is no difference between 311 and Miles Davis?
My thinking is that this is a fairly stupid and pointless rabbit hole of an argument to get into "i.e. "art should have standards of quality" / "who gets to be grand arbiter of what's good/what isn't" etc. etc.
I think, like it or not, there are certain quality standards that exist in art appreciation. The reason that argument is tough to make is because they are nuanced standards - some combination of skill, experience, creativity, etc that can't really be quantified and won't hold up under the black and white scrutiny of purely rhetorical argument.
Any way, that wasn't the argument I was trying to make in the first place.
What I AM saying this that with photography, MY OPINION is that what makes a photograph "good" (and yes, good being wholly subjective, etc) its "goodness" shouldn't be wholly dependent on context. I love photographs that I connect with due to both context and composition. Hence a photograph of John Lennon isn't "good" SOLELY for the context that it happens to be a photograph of John Lennon (or anyone/anything else). Similarly old photographs can be good, but I think their quality shouldn't be wholly and exclusively because they are old.
For definition of "good" please see argument above
I will take my rebuttal off the air but I should be back later for more fisticuffs
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damn that looks good.
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like
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I don't like honest Abe in those colors. I always kind of pegged him as a gray suit kind of guy.
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yeah Abe definitely seems like a gray suit guy
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abe loved to get pegged. FACT.
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Zombie_Leguizamo
11/14/12 4:16 PM
I don't like honest Abe in those colors. I always kind of pegged him as a gray suit kind of guy.
adam
11/14/12 4:18 PM
yeah Abe definitely seems like a gray suit guy
yeah all I've ever seen is pictures of him in gray suit and gray makeup with gray hair
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gray cabin, gray emancipation....
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Wow, guys, they colorized a bunch of old black & white films, too.
You know who'd really love those photos? Ted Turner.
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i refuse to believe that abe lincoln wasn't asian.
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Abe looks like a chimp. Was he secretly a chimp?
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I actually typed and then deleted the comment "Ted Turner would be impressed," when I saw those.
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Dustroyer
11/14/12 6:22 PM
Wow, guys, they colorized a bunch of old black & white films, too.
You know who'd really love those photos? Ted Turner.
----Soooo........ ?
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I meant, "Yeah, Dustroyer, I thought the same thing."
You're having trouble with subtext today.
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Happy to pick up the slack on that one, dan.
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There is some great stuff there. Have not seen them all yet but definitely some faves in the block of numbers 15 - 19. That body being drug behind a motorcycle = holy shit
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i honestly felt like i learned a lot about the world by flipping through that slide show.
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nevermind, I guess the numbers don't really correspond to photos - their numbers change depending on how you view them.
That one of the dude under the slide as well and the guy getting a metal bolt removed from his body, naked guy charging police, guy with knife through neck are also blowing my mind. I am only like halfway through
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how about the house in the middle of the fucking road in china because they didn't take the buy out? or the outdoor escalator for no reason other than novelty in some poor columbian town that actually ended up being an economic boon?
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Totally. One legged high jumper is pretty sweet too.
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WHY WOULD THEY PUT THAT SLIDE SHOW CONTROLLER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING PAGE?
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<all caps>don't use the slideshow, just manually click on the arrows on the side of each image. </all caps>
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OK, COOL.
SAY, HOW DID YOU LEARN THAT COOL HTML TRICK? HITTING AND RELEASING THE 'SHIFT' BUTTON FOR EACH LETTER TIRES MY FINGERS OUT.
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Thanks! That was better than watching Koyaanasquaatsi.
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Yeah, nice work Adam!
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Whoa, where'd that come from? It's amazing.
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totally
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ha ha "looks shopped"?
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That looks freaking fantastic.
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whoa that hundley is SEXXXY
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<a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/03/national_archives_searching_fo.html">Awesome 70s shots from the National Archives<a>
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that family has the right idea
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Maaaaaan.
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Entirely coincidentally I fell across mn70s.tumblr.com just now and a shot of this mind-boggling Vadnais Heights development.
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Whoa. Degree in Architecture from WTF University.
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Makes more sense than just leaving them lying around.
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Ha, I wish. We called that game "Burn Victim"
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gross
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This is so good: Beijing Silvermine. 12 minute short film about a French man living in China who rescues photo negatives from recycling and scans and catalogs them. He has collected nearly a half million to date.
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I've taken many scotch tape self-portraits at home.
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Post 'em!
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i call bullshit ;)
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Guys I........ I just made all that up..... I'm so..... sorry for hurting you......
*runs away sobbing*
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But you could STILL DO IT. C'mon.
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"IT'S ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE"
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cojak sent this my way. Pretty neat.
The Masks We Wear
We wear masks for many reasons: for fun, for protection, or to make a statement. In turbulent public settings, obscuring one's face can protect an individual from retaliation while evoking fear and uncertainty in others. Donning the mask of a cultural, political, or religious figure can lend that person power and further his or her legacy. Those who wear masks to protect their faces from environmental hazards may also end up sending a message of caution to outside observers. In many cases, though, masks play a more lighthearted role, allowing the wearer to take part in a festival and become someone (or something) else for a time. I've gathered here a few recent images of people wearing masks, covering their faces for a wide variety of reasons.
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I just spent all morning looking at that tumbler. Awesome.
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Everysing in der iss so WHITE.... so PURE.
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FUCK YEAH.
I wanna do that shit! I was basically an improvising parkour spazz for the first 20 years of my life, but never formally did anything like that.
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cross post in cat thread. <a href="black cat audition in Hollywood">http://taildom.com/blog/pictures/black-cat-audition-in-hollywood/</a>
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i need halp. yuck. was it that last backslash after hollywood?
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You put the thing where the deal goes and the deal where the thing should be.
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thanks boris!
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haha nice job
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' Happy End' - a Photo-Book about Miracles in Aviation History
Help me to self-publish a photo-book about 15 airplanes abandoned in nowhere. All on board survived the forced landings.
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Lotta people would buy a book by that title.
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Yeah...I thought that too.
How about these?
This photo series showing nature seemingly untouched is out of a fantasy! Check out Cody Cobb's beautiful landscapes.
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cool story i just read:
<a href="http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/02/18/found-at-auction-the-unseen-photographs-of-a-legend-that-never-was/>Found at Auction: The Unseen Photographs of a Legend that Never Was</a>
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I don't think I've seen most of those in the article yet, love the first two. I missed a Maier exhibit in Chicago last summer when I was there.
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Man, those are GREAT. I think I found a photo hero.
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^ wow
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Love those.
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It's hard to overestimate the importance of a reliable stuffed monkey on the welfare of a child.
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36 Years of not smiling!
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Ha! They don't always look so serious/sour. But yeah, mostly.
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Not a looker in the bunch.
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water pics are the best. my camera (canon rebel 3i) is almost fast enough to capture moving details, but not quite.
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Love Winogrand
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